NSA will get Voat 'VC funders' to try to get devs to change the 'up down' vote algos. ( conspiracy )

submitted by k_digi

They need to tip it in favour of the sock puppets.

There are two (2) take away points (many others)

  • at least you know the algorithms worked they were effective in stopping a lot of sock puppets.
  • it's a good sign for the future 'voat' forum.

Broc_Lia

Reddit uses "fuzzing" to alter the displayed number of votes cast and alter what ends up being displayed at the top. They also decided to stop displaying up/downvote ratios. Their rationale for doing so was to "confuse spambots" but that makes little sense and it does make it suspiciously easy for them to promote shills from behind the scenes.

k_digi

yeah hes using the 'i confused' lines, indeed and subtle version of the same thing will be Voat's path.

Citizen

Voat is open source. The algos are open for anyone to read. If they're modified, it will be noticed, and there will be a lot of discussion.

Sciency

Where can one find and audit these algorithms?

Citizen

Scroll down to the bottom of any voat.co page, and click on "source code".

k_digi

Not if 'part' of the code becomes 'non open' but yeah I hear ya.

Broc_Lia

While that certainly helps if there needs to be another migration, do we have access to their servers to check they're actually running binaries compiled from those sources without alteration?

k_digi

good point. as this is a forum and infinitely variable it would be very difficult to asses.

Broc_Lia

A good solution would be to hire a trustworthy intermediary like wikileaks of EFF to audit them.

Zodi

This shit makes so little sense I'm starting to think you're a bot.

k_digi

How very 'reddit' of you for saying so : D ty.

Zodi

You start off by saying NSA will convince investors to get devs to hide up/downvotes.

Then you go on to say "algorithms worked to stop them before, this is a good thing"

You're wrong on both counts.

jerry

Not even a link to pretend i read?