nwguy

not true at all

FriedChicken

Cannabis on the whole makes you stupid. It's not a myth or some D.A.R.E. lie. It's bad for both you individually and for society. To think otherwise is to delude yourself.

Not that I haven't enjoyed weed in the past.

Blue333

Look - when they ensure to keep the pot shops and liquor stores open during the scamdemic...well... kinda tells you all you need to know eh?

Argumentative

pro weed guy but I'm against legalizing it because of regulations and taxes basically. well that and the kikes want to invent a synthetic weed that probably sterilizes you or some other kikery

ilovejuices3

Many cannabinoids are medicinal. THC is poison.

blueblur

THC is an anti-inflammatory and has several other medicinal values. Don’t be gay.

Killer_Werewolf

While Some states are trying trying to challenge this.....but as of now .. at least to my knowledge......

If you have Medical card approved by a State Government, you can be banned by the Federal Government from buying a gun.

It is essentially a sly way to get more gun control.

http://www.wboc.com/story/41628950/bill-aimed-at-protecting-medical-marijuana-patients-gun-ownership-clears-delaware-house-committee

https://www.oberhauserlaw.com/blog/criminal/medical-marijuana-gun-purchase/

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/medical-marijuana-say-goodbye-your-gun-rights-0

Also as other people have already said, Jews like money. Jews want to control that huge market.

scoopadoop

a little bit can open your mind, but too much dulls you into apathy

GoyimNose

Those that were trying to legalize it were not really, they are called control opposition. It's the same as vegans, most of the vegan pushers are kikes but they don' want people to go vegan so they make them out to be crazy. They want goys to continue eating their drugged up and satanic tortured meat.

drhitler

but it was originally banned in 1937 just so arnsinger could win a racially charged vote

idc what voat think about pot, i grew up around drunks, people who drink a lot are generally more scum than people who smoke a lot of pot.

I can still do my job stoned, not drunk

Kooshed

MONEY

mehwah

Smoking drugs will suck out our energy and dive- a bunch of under employed poor people are way easier to control if their in a cloudy haze and watching TV

Crikes

Prohibition is a criminal scam. Anyone who is for it has been fooled entirely by a very transparent pretense.

Prohibition doesn't work in any sense that anyone who isn't protecting their monopoly of something would endorse.

If you're going to fall for the scam used to destroy our liberty, and the world, at least apply your "logic" to the deadliest things first, like driving, prescriptiom drugs, and alcohol.

Understand, though, that no one has the right to violate the rights of another in this way. It is a scam that funds to destroy what it doesn't destroy itself.

We must learn that some things are the realm of the state, and some things are the realm of family, or community.

Vices are an issue of self, family, community, control, and cannot be handled by the state.

ardvarcus

Mary Jane is just another way to weaken the will and the mind of whites. It's another weapon of the communist Jews.

dmandnm

The past few days I’ve been watching Murder Mountain on Netflix. It’s pretty good. What started out as a bunch of pot lovin hippies growing weed and dodging the law has turned into a major clusterfuck of crime and murder. Many farmers welcomed the legalization with the hopes of going legit and not having to hide from law enforcement. As time went on after legalization was passed, the hippies soon learned that the deal they hoped for, a utopia of freedom to grow and sell, turned into a nightmare that has threatened everything they’ve worked for their entire lives. Now they are overburdened with taxes and regulations and whatever profits they once had are now gone. Most are facing ruin.

As I was watching this, I laughed at their stupidity because the hand of the Jew was obvious. It’s the same game played over and over. Promise paradise and deliver a nightmare from which there is no escape.

Is cannabis the devil’s lettuce? Maybe. The utter destruction of peoples’ lives and the number of lives lost gives me reason to think so. It’s a lie from the Jew that you can enjoy pot and have no consequences. Same as any other vice.

One last thought on the farms in California. After the regulations and taxes push out the hippies, the only people left to farm the pot will be dangerous criminals and large corporations (are they different?). It’s a sure thing that those corporations will be run by Jews. Same ol same ol.

Hmmmm_m

They want to corner the market and cut everyone else out through regulations. Just look at NorCal, generational cannabis farmers being ratted out by (((legal))) farmers and kikes are buying up the land pennies on the dollar.

Total control of one of Gods greatest gifts.

Dailytacs

The medicinal purposes can be extracted and utilized without weakening the mind. A sober mind is preferable above all else.

rabies_4_all

If it’s legal it’s easier for them to corner the market.

whitesrbetter

The entire legitimate and master cannabis growing community is White. Jews are just now trying to buy in to it but, they jave no networks. The reason why I think they are leglaizing it is that they know the cannabis growing is made of White males and makes hundred of thousands dollars uner the table in year and that the Cannabis networks have no nigger or no beaner rules. The cannabis growing community is one of the few Pro-White communities.

Its the only community that siphons money from leftist and shitskins that goes back to the White growers that don't have any White guilt.

blueblur

Good point. They’re pushing for “equal opportunities” for minorities to own shops.

whitesrbetter

Yep and kikes are currently trying to muscle in, they like to put jew shit in their cannabis names so its easy to tell who owns it their products are always trash though when they supply it because they cut corners. The thing is ,a cannabis business is simply too much work for shitskins, too tempting and shitskins will turn into a trap spot like they did before it was legal.

Kikes don't have the farming ability or the connections so they will be stuck with white labeling White peoples cannabis.

Doglegwarrior

almost every god damn liberal commie piece of shit is pro weed. it fucking somehow makes guys more liberal and i have no clue how or why! does excess weed smoking drop testorine levels?

now i am 100% for legalizing all fucking drugs goverments cant legislate morality. that being said id fucking out law prostitution and pornography because they are basicaly strait up jewish weapons of war.

im a big aas contradiction i just realised... how about this.

remove all the jews first then lets see what america becomes

buckhorn

My understanding is that cannabis prohibition was pushed by the Nixon administration as an excuse to arrest blacks and leftist hippies that made up the majority of users at the time. Perhaps Jews view it as a non-kosher impurity that they expect will cause us goys to degenerate if it's available too broadly.

the_art_collector

The director of Reefer Madness and his wife died in a double suicide.

Broseefus_

marijuana distracts people from improving their lot in life. they become contented with an unhappy work life, a falling-apart people, and an unnatural household. our ancestors didn't smoke pot; they drank booze (in great amounts), which would let them forget misfortune temporarily, rather than let them learn to live with it. if jews promote it, how could it be good for you? if none of your ancestors used it, how can you become comparable to them? the modern world requires coping, but mind-altering drugs are not the solution for valuable men.

the excruciating modernist desire for extreme comfort overrides these considerations, even among like-minded men.

CelticMutt

For the same reason that they sold alchohol to Russisn farmers, they are selling weed to American wage slaves. Yes, it does have some benefits for some people. It also makes you unmotivated, passive, and like any other habit, costs money that you're paying to them which can then be used to further Jewish interests. It's a vice, a weakness that they can exploit in their enemy.

rayfarmer

Cannabis is not what it used to be.bi think it’s been turned into a weapon. It has been molested and adulterated. Also, these same people pushing for legalization, while simultaneously working on patents for synthetic thc.

Wingrider

No, but many of the riots seem to be where it's now legal.

GreenSlug

They shut cannabis down a looooong time ago to hurt us. They cant keep that cat in the bag any longer, so here they come riding in as champions to bring us all weed. Only because trying to keep it from us longer would look bad and fail

AdaptOrDie

Money. It's all about the sheckles...

worlddownunder682

I think they want it for the medical industry. Legal pot is taxed very high. If they make it legal they get lots of profit and a chance to monopolize it. I think they will crack down on the private sale of pot. They will make it part of big pharma.

Xax

Of course. Weed makes people inert and easy to control, because it takes energy to resist control.

kishind

Smoking marijuana inhibits male fertility. There are some pseudoestrogens, I'm not worried about them, but the substance itself makes procreation much less likely over the 30 days it's in your system.

Clearly some jews caught on to this fact and considered it a bigger deal than its clinically proven inhibition on tumor growth.

Kat-the-Cat

What I find interesting is the fact that legalization takes it out of the average growers hands, levies taxes and egregious rules and limitations, and puts an end to those who make homemade edibles or other and ruins a once decently established economy except for those who can afford the expensive as fuck permits or can afford the costs of testing potency at a lab.

DeltaBravoTango

Those are the most jewish looking guys I've ever seen.

pnwpatriot97

It's another industry that can easily be corrupted. Like alcohol, enjoy a toke in moderation. There's solid proof THC and CBD help cure chronic pain, epilepsy in children and of course cancer in adults & children.

Look at the opiates that doctor's use for pain treatment during or after operations for sedation and pain relief. Obviously not going to shoot a patient up with heroin, but there are absolutely medicinal benefits found inside opiates, as there are in cannabis as well.

There are many that are stuck in their old ways of or won't even be open minded towards learning about any medicinal about cannabis because "Muh Reefer Madness".

They are the same idiots who trust doctors more than family, and take several medications to stay "normal", but give people shit for having a toke to help with their health issues.

Big pharma is a huge part of this whole mess imo. They have influenced generation after generation that cannabis is a bane to society, when it's only a bane to their profits from pills.

I know Class A CDL drivers, Surgeons, Lawyers, Chefs, Mechanics and just about any other type of person that enjoys a toke more than even a beer after their day.

Now about states without legalization... If you could get arrested in a state for drinking beer, you sure as hell wouldn't feel too safe talking to anyone about drinking because of fear. Well, same situation actually happens with a person who smokes pot where it's illegal. Only thing is where it's illegal, usually everyone that smokes keeps it on the DL.

Sad part is there are states that could really benefit from all the revenue being collected from the cannabis tax and hey likely won't see any of that revenue until it is federally legalized. States with cannabis legalized have also seen a dramatic decline in hard drug use, domestic violence and DUIs. Local Oregon sheriff's will tell you the same thing.

Ducktalesooo000ooo

The people who illegalized it were probably kikes too.

Their scams usually have more than one stage.

stop accepting premises when you come upon them as wholly organic or limited in scope. Smarten up. Think outside the box ffs.

NotWearingPants

Am not Jewish, am probably a bastard, am pro-legalization.

I smelled the odor of marijuana" or better, "My dog smelled the odor of marijuana" and your 4th amendment rights disappear in a traffic stop.

sLnTsRvC

If it can be sold and it doesn't benefit the person a jew will sell.

AlternateSelection

I'm not a user or Jewish and I'm for legalization. If booze is legal, weed should have been legal decades ago. 3 years sober now as well. Booze is much MUCH worse than weed ever could or would be.

slumbermachine

Very thoughtful response.

blueblur

Agreed. It’s gotta be about controlling the industry.

CentipedeRex

Says the people addicted to alcohol and sugar.

mehwah

Do you think that those things ARE NOT problems???

If I like a drink should I just shrug and say crack is no big deal?????

CentipedeRex

Freedom is freedom, pal. That includes the freedom to (what you perceive) to make a mistake.

mehwah

I agree... if people want to feast on sugar and booze or inhale weed or snort coke or shoot up heroin and be unhealthy, lazy stoner scumfucks that's their choice.

No sarcasm- I really think the drug war was a mistake....but i also think giving a single tax dime to helping druggies is a waste. They can live or die as they see fit.

Look at history shows that those who make their monet on sugar, coffee, or opium need laws to keep the market clear for them and them alone.

OogaBooga696969

I'm not pro any drug. I'm just anti drug laws.

slumbermachine

This is a hard issue to figure out. On the one hand, cannabis has helped people and saved lives. On the other hand, George Soros was the leading figure behind legalization back in the 90’s and early 00’s. There must be something more to it.

blueblur

No shit? I’ll have to look into that geez.

OFFascist

Many on the left want it to be a ballot issue to drive turn out. It should just be legalized so it is not a ballot issue. Let the dopers get high and forget all about the election.

Not_C

If something can be used as medicine, then it should be used as medicine. I don't care if that medicine comes from uranium, marijuana, or oranges.

Sometimes you need to harm someone in order to heal them. We should continue to give people chemo if it'll help heal them in the long run, but not for recreation.

It's the same with marijuana. It a testosterone blocker. Sources 1 , 2 , 3 . So use it as medicine, but prevent people from using it as a testosterone blocker.

And yes, I understand the "my body my choice" and FREEDOM!! arguments. But people are stupid and shouldn't have access to testosterone blockers.

(((They))) have convinced people that you have to support Freedom and saving lives or you're a prohibition supporting murderer. That you can't be pro-medicine and anti-recreational.

RogueWaveofGoats

Yes, the jews got control of the product via legislation that favors their companies and now it's all good. IOW they will make the most money from legalization.

blumen4alles

cannabis is the devil lettuce

Cannabis translates to "two-dog plant" and was brought here from Sirius. It is a tool and like any tool can be misused. I'd say jews are involved for two reasons.

1) they want to profit off of it (legal or not they still profit)

2) it can put people into a mental state for them to be easier controlled (think MK Ultra)

For me, cannabis often acts like a translator for me, and when in that mental state I can look back at recent events & better understand them. Hemp is also very versatile.

dirt_reynolds

There's shekels to be made. Of course they're involved.

Hispeedtim2876

They want you drunk and drugged! Very simple strategy to ruin a country.

rspix000

Nixon may have tried to muster additional support from anti-semites, but it was just a feint. This was political because of the huge anti-war movement during Vietnam. FYI banks were making millions off financing the war. Nixon deliberately targeted blacks and hippies with his war on mj https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html

Tyranny-News-Network

Herer & Rosenthal are clean. Decades of work without any apparent shenanigans. But I think the recent notables ARE suspect.

EngelbertHumperdinck

Jews promote weed because it makes the average user lethargic and demotivated. The fact it can have positive effects just helps them get away with it. I love getting high, but I don't love the 25 years I wasted getting high and being less productive than I could have been.

ChimpEvader

I knew a girl who worked at a shop, she said, "This shit is toxic. We have to wear respirators when we spray it. It has all kinds of chemicals in it. It isn't natural or good for you at all. Don't buy it." lol They grow GMO too and fuck up your mind and reproductive abilities. I don't trust anything Jews are behind. Always do the opposite.

Phantom42

They want you drugged and sedated while yoir wife cucks you and your daughter is raped. Don't worry about your son, he'll only be tortured to death.

So, do you really want "muh dank shiiieeeet" or do you want to keep your brain aware of your surroundings?

slowcrash101

It's a drug, and if there's drugs involved I can assure you there's a jew involved.

Ocelot

Indeed. I bet one of their angles, apart from just trying to corner another market and rake in shekels, is to gain control over the production of marijuana and begin polluting the strains with damaging additives. As it is, marijuana is extremely high-THC as compared to historical strains, but it's quite pure as far as I know. If the jew gets involved, this will change.

TFS

Good post. I agree that cannabis can be useful for some people with medical conditions and unlike opioids it doesn't cause a physical addiction. The problem is that cannabis tends to pacify people, habitual users in particular, and that's something we really don't need right now when the jews and their "goy" globalist pets are busy finalizing their carefully laid plan of a world wide totalitarian police state. This is a time when it's crucial for us to be alert and try to wake up as many as possible to what's going on. One thing that made me very suspicious about the legalization agenda was that (((George Soros))) has been pushing really hard for this.

"George Soros has spent at least $80million to get pot legalized in the US and Uruguay"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2596471/George-Soros-spent-80million-pot-legalized-US-Uruguay.html

So has the (((Monsanto))) family.

"The War on Weed: Monsanto, Bayer, and the Push for “Corporate Cannabis”

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-war-on-weed-monsanto-bayer-and-the-push-for-corporate-cannabis/5534771

I think it's all part of the jewish demoralization campaign against Whites. To pacify us with mindless talmudvision, degenerate nigger-music, pornography and drugs to the point that young Whites don't even care if the White race is genocided.

mehwah

The problem is that cannabis tends to pacify people, habitual users in particular

TRUTH

B3H0ldAPal3H0rs3

^^This

DesolationRoad

I've always enjoyed cannabis and psilocybin. These have been in use for eons. Its intertwined in many religions. I look at cannabis as 1 step above Coffee when it comes to mind altering drugs.

Some people become lazy, weak and anti social... I suspect those people would be lost even without cannabis.

Since I woke up on The Question I've been taking notice of my lazy anti social behavior. As long as you address the problems in your life there's nothing wrong with having a puff a couple times a day or maybe really "smoking out" once a weekend.

FortyFourFore

Ya, the issue with Marijuana is in it's sedation, it's also a drug that can kill ones drive, they just wanna chill, get high, snack, but that doesn't help to push society forward, it just causes it to stagnate.

Then you have the other potential issue where people who do smoke it at a young age have an altered short term memory, their capacity to remember is reduced compared to those who haven't smoked because the drug stifled the growth of their brain in that specific part.

Like with all the knowledge in hand, marijuana, hell any drug has potential to be good when taking responsibly but the means of legalizing it is a device to sedate society into complacent drones that work, get high and go back to work, rinse repeat, drones a slave to capitalism.

zozimus

Some people become lazy, weak and anti social... I suspect those people would be lost even without cannabis.

Nail / head.

mehwah

Alister Crowley used to experiment with hallucinogens on his dinner guests as a form of mind control... the LSD revolution was a pre-planned (as in 'St Peters Snow'....in print years before LSD was 'discovered' ) experiment in mass mind control but failed because it was too uncontrollable with people in the wild.

bingo-bango-bongo

Stop smoking shit you degenerate.

Muh-Shugana

I'm thinking that jews are for cannabis, not because its bad- but because they want to be the ones in control of it.

Jews want to control everything, good and bad. They also enjoy transforming good things into bad things.

crazy_eyes

Coffee is so much worse than cannabis its not even comparable. Take away a coffee addicts coffee and they will become agitated to the point of violence. Coffee is ten steps above cannabis in terms of mind altering drugs. If I were president the first thing I would do is make coffee illegal and then all those addicted hypocrites could be persecuted like the cannabis users have been for the past 80 years. Fuck those hypocrites. I want them to have their cars searched cause a dog smells a coffee bean. I want them locked in a cage for years for imbibing in their addictive behavior. Fuck them

by2inthemorning

Take weed from a weed addict and they will become agitated to the point of violence.

Solstiare

I will fuckin murder you if you try to take away my coffee.

crazy_eyes

see what I mean?

Solstiare

The coffee is the only thing standing between a good mood and mass murder. I drink it for YOUR well-being, not mine.

parrygrin

Bwahahaha fantastic.

DesolationRoad

weeeeell now I think you're overreacting a tiny bit. For example yes 1 shot of espresso is more intense than 1 puff of a joint. I'll give you that. Coffee is like speed, its a serious drug...I'll give you that.

Maybe you just havent had good coffee? I really think thats possible. For real good coffee to happen the beans to be recently roasted and then ground RIGHT before you pull a shot of espresso which only if done correctly....will have a red foam on top called "crema". That is real coffee. It is an amazing experience and divine to taste.

Is it addictive? Well....Maybe. Should it be illegal? Fuck no. Will drinking it every day make you die sooner? Maybe a few years yeah. Probably not take as many years off your life as smoking any substances though. Should people be able to live their life as they want to and die in their 50 and 60s of otherwise preventable causes? Yes. Dumbass.

crazy_eyes

Look at you already making excuses for your caffeine addiction

offender

Oh no, not the devil's jelly beans!

Metanoiac

I quit smoking recently (about a year ago) after 23 years. I'd always wondered if it had any effect on me regarding demotivation or reducing intellectual capacity or any other such. Since quitting the major effects I have noticed are as follows:

Dreams are more vivid and frequent (at least I remember them more often)

Memory has improved slightly, barely noticably

Watch fewer movies

Play fewer video games

Sex is less enjoyable

I can't stand people

Difficulty shutting off my mind when I go to sleep (main reason I'd been smoking so long) which causes some insomnia

Honestly I don't think it had any net negative impact on me, though, I was an extremely light smoker. Truth said, the main reason I quit is cause you have to deal with arabs to get any where I live and I can't stand arabs and don't want to give them money.

dundundunnnnn

Sex is less enjoyable

insomnia

Do you eat enough Omega 3 compared to the Omega 6 and 9 you take in?

I recommend a raw cod liver oil supplement but who the fuck am I, right? Look into it.

Metanoiac

I consume a great amount of olive oil. I also eat fish at least once or twice a week and there are a lot of nuts in my diet as well. I think I get my Omega 3s.

I don't think nutrition is the problem. I'm not sure how to say this without coming off as some kind of braggart, so I usually don't mention it, but I'm in the extreme high IQ range. My mind races constantly and sometimes I have trouble shutting down at night.

This is something I have had to deal with my whole life. It was a big part of why I smoked so long. As far as the sex goes, since I would smoke before bed I would be high for sex and it would enhance the sensations.

I do appreciate the friendly advice though. If you have any other suggestions I'll listen. I just don't think the problem is my omega intake.

Varlet

Learn to meditate and clear your mind and/or exercise before bed so that you're tired enough to fall asleep right away. Insomnia tends to occur when there is a disconnect in wakefulness between the body and the mind.

Metanoiac

Those are both solutions I have used over the years to overcome the problem, even when I was smoking. They do work, though exercise is a lot more efficient than meditation.

Qqqqqqqqqqweeds

Yes mr dundundunnnnn, if that is your real name. Who... Who indeed?

dundundunnnnn

I should have worded that way better...haha. Sorry.

Look into Omega 3 ratio and using cod liver oil for vitamins A and D as well as it ups your omega 3 intake. K2 from cheese is important for Vitamin D synthesis.

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

Marijuana weakens people mentally, morally, and and physically. Cancerous tumors often go away by themselves, it's called spontaneous regression. Stop buying the Jew lies about it being 'medicine', lol

zozimus

Marijuana weakens people mentally, morally, and and physically.

How? Explain exactly how it weakens people morally, mentally or physically? People who make such sweeping statements such as yours often turn out to be smooth-brained retards, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt if you can provide one substantial fact that supports your claim.

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

I have been alive 53 muthafukkin years, and known thousands of dopers, that's how, you effeminate cock-loving tranny Negress.

XSS1337

5 day old account

Downvoat and move along

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

Not all of us are oldfags, dummy, many are Reddit (Faggit) refugees with no other alternatives. Ruqqus is 503 Central, and Saidit is only slightly less cucked than Faggit.

zozimus

"Not all of us are oldfags, dummy, many are Reddit (Faggit)"

dummy

You should probably go back to reddit

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

I will never return to that cesspool of Zionist faggottry, but you should probably return to your tranny pappy for another butt-milking

XSS1337

Yawn.

Boy you are already outed here. Just kill yourself

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

Just suck my cawk, fattie, it's the only thing you're good at

XSS1337

Fuck you kike.

No kike will ever walk the earth again after you are exposed for crimes against humanity.

Literal embodiment of evil.

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

You filthy Negress whore, may Trump expand your anus with His divine cock

XSS1337

Fuck you rabbi, all Jew children burn and go straight to Hell.

No law will protect demons in the flesh kike

MOGA

If he's wrong, say that he's wrong, and why. Just bringing up account ages makes it seem like you don't have a counter-argument. It's like a leftist calling you a racist because they can't call you a liar. Just because a boomer is 50 doesn't mean his opinions are worth jack-shit.

XSS1337

12 month old account

You niggers want to play in the mud with niggers go for it, but that makes you too a nigger.

Go back to kikebook boy.

Smokybubbles

You're wrong. It's useful medicine that is less expensive than drug company meds, more effective, less side effects, and naturally grown. No money for the drug companies, health insurance, etc if you can grow your own meds. Profit is the reason they outlaw a plant, and it's bullshit.

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

Smoking dope turns you into a soft, sensitive little faggot. Real KINGS go about their bidness in a sober manner.

zozimus

Real KINGS go about their bidness in a sober manner.

faggot on voat calls himself a king . My sides!

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

If I am a faggot on voat, then you are a obese nigger tranny on voat.

MOGA

It may be a great medicine for some, but it's like pulling a warm fuzzy blanket over your mind. It is very comfy, but you can't walk around all day wrapped in a blanket. There are times when you need to face the cold hard edges and deal with it, and jews absolutely want as many people pacified by any means necessary. The times they are a-changin, and the less people that have the ability to feel the righteous anger that is deserved by (((their))) actions, the easier it is for (((them))) to maintain and further seize complete control of our nation.

mrnicegoy

I would say forget the medical angle, at the end of the day people are going to want to get fucked up, its something we have been doing since we were monkeys (and some have argued drugs are the precursor to evolution), and to just deem it illegal is morally wrong and goes against the grain of the libertarian spirit which we all here on voat value. If people can't get weed, they will get something, whether its heroin, crack, or huffing air duster they brought home from the office. Life is hard, much more so for some than others, and its not fair to just look down on them and say "they dont need it". I fully admit the math on legal drugs gets much more complicated when something like meth enters the picture, but for the sake of this argument the scope is limited to weed. Just let the stoners be goofy and less productive, if they get so bad they cant take care of themselves financially then fuck em, they can sober up working a labor job or die.

spaceman84

Sure Mr Bongrips. You're repeating the same rhetoric as every other burnout who makes ridiculous medical claims about marijuana.

Rellik88

Humans have been using drugs since the dawn of man. Alcohol, cannabis, coca, and opium.

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

That doesn't make it a good thing. True Kings do not pollute their minds and bodies with adulterants.

Rellik88

Good point, however ever European king drank mead, beer, or wine. They had to just to disinfect thier water.

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

Alcohol was popular not just for the buzz, but because of bacterium in water. REAL kings did not get drunk as a habit. Hitler forbade his senior officers to get drunk, and He never drank at all.

knightwarrior41

drugs just weaken the mental state of the user and allows him/her to go in to deeper depravity

zozimus

drugs just weaken the mental state of the user and allows him/her to go in to deeper depravity

Pseudo-intellectual drivel that sounds profound but has zero bearing on reality.

knightwarrior41

again,you are a drug user and a loser its not a problem of mine

crazy_eyes

you're on drugs, you fucking hypocrite. Had your coffee this morning addict? You having some alcohol during the holiday celebrations? Or maybe you take an aspirin for a headache. Or something to control your blood pressure. You're a drug addicted hypocrite

knightwarrior41

Had your coffee this morning addict?

nope i dont even drink coffee but comparing drugs to coffee is pretty stupid if you ask me.drugs can kill you and mess your mind and even your family but coffee doesnt

You having some alcohol during the holiday celebrations?

sorry but i dont drink alcohol either.

Or maybe you take an aspirin for a headache.

again,apples and oranges and all that

Or something to control your blood pressure. You're a drug addicted hypocrite

blood pressure medication doesnt fucking give you a high,retard.if you dont take it YOU DIE.some people are very very stupid here

btw,i have seen with my own very eyes how drugs destroy lives.when i was a teen i used to live in a building where i had a neighbor who were drug addicts.actually,they were a couple,these people because of the extended drug use had a pair of twins and one of the twins was born with cerebral palsy because his mother took drugs

okay,after the kids were born,the couple used to get gifts and toys from the extended family and friends and guess what they did with the gifts? they would resell them in order to finance their drug habit.fast forward 20 years

the invalid kid was treated soo poorly that as soon as he became an adult he preferred to be secluded in a hospice for disabled people while their parents moved from my state to another state and left him all by himself.hell even the twin brother ditched him for good

now who is the fucking idiot and retard that would still defend drug use after reading this story?i bet that you are a druggie yourself

personally you can choose the lifestyle that you want but please make SURE that YOU dont HURT others while in the process

zozimus

btw,i have seen with my own very eyes how drugs destroy lives.when i was a teen i used to live in a building where i had a neighbor who were drug addicts.actually,they were a couple,these people because of the extended drug use had a pair of twins and one of the twins was born with cerebral palsy because his mother took drugs

okay,after the kids were born,the couple used to get gifts and toys from the extended family and friends and guess what they did with the gifts? they would resell them in order to finance their drug habit.fast forward 20 years

You're BS appeal to emotion here fails due to you're own rational: apples and oranges. The argument you're dealing with is about cannabis, but you're conflating the effects of harder drugs with cannabis to make your point.

I would bet my whole stash of weed on the following being factual: the parents in your story were on hard drugs (crack, meth, heroine or fent or something). Which is like comparing water and alcohol in respect to weed and hard drugs.

While /u/crazy_eyes is ranting and edging on hyperbolic, they have a point. Where we draw the line on what counts as 'drugs' and not drugs is arbritrary and often based on bias, such as your anecdote influencing your perception of where the line is on what counts as 'drugs' as you seem to circle cannabis in with hard drugs.

This only proves your lack of understanding of the gradation of addiction and health-impact in relation to ingested substances and highlights your bias is informing your argument more than facts of the matter.

knightwarrior41

meh i dont care i know what i have seen its true.go and insert a drug pipe in shape of a cactus in your ass for what all i care.you are a LOSER period

crazy_eyes

so you think caffeine is not a drug. marijuana cant kill you. is that a drug? I dont take blood pressure medicine and Im not dead, so. Drugs are only things that get you high now? Coffee gives a buzz. If coffee were to be made illegal there would be an immediate black market springing up to supply all of the addicts. Imagine all the infringements on our rights the legislatures could enact to combat the coffee cartels

knightwarrior41

. is that a drug?

yes if it gives you a high its a drug that most of the times acts as gateway drug because there are people who will develop tolerance and will need a greater high.most drug users(not all though) have started with marijuana that is a fact

I dont take blood pressure medicine and Im not dead, so.

are you high now or are you stupid? if you dont suffer from high blood pressure then you dont need to take the medication but a person who has high blood pressure that person could eventually end up dead if that said person doesnt take it.personal story my granny died of high blood pressure and diabetes it destroyed her kidneys and heart so i fucking know what i am talking about....

Drugs are only things that get you high now?

of course not but drugs can impair you and kill you and like i said it destroy families,again dear drug user i have seen it with my own eyes

Coffee gives a buzz.

you cannot compare the "buzz" of a cup of coffee with the high of marijuana,crack cocaine,heroin and other drugs.there's no comparison.

you dont know what are you talking about. again, you can ruin your life if you like it but make sure that you dont ruin others and cause a burden on TAXPAYERS

crazy_eyes

how can you say there is no comparison? drinking coffee is basically the exact same thing as smoking crack

you must be on crack

knightwarrior41

how can you say there is no comparison? drinking coffee is basically the exact same thing as smoking crack

you must be on crack

only a drug user would say that 🤔

crazy_eyes

have you ever drank coffee? have you ever smoked crack? same damn thing

knightwarrior41

have you ever drank coffee?

i have drank coffe in the past but never got a high

have you ever smoked crack?

never!

same damn thing

NOT really with this i end this discussion you are free to destroy yourself if you want to bye

SeriousNiggerFaggot

I know potheads who are ambitious and intelligent and I know some who are always getting too stoned to function. Let's face it, the dumb will be dumb anyway. I want it legal because it's a fucking plant and I'm tired of loosing badass electricians on my job site because they fail a UA because of a plant they smoke on their own time while tweakers clean up for 2 days and go back to being a crackhead once hired.

dirt_reynolds

That's ignorant as fuck.

I use thc just about daily to treat autoimmune diseases and arthritis. It works as good or better than any pharmaceutical I've ever been on.

I'm also a senior manager in an industry leading software company. I've done more before the age of 40 than most will ever do. I make more money than just about every "pot is for degenerates" ignorant fuck on the planet.

So, spare us your dipshit pot is the devil nonsense. You clearly have zero idea what you're preaching.

I've researched medical marijuana for over a decade. I've discussed my treatment with all of my doctors. I've taken control of my own health and well being.

So, in closing, you have no idea what your spouting, you're ignorant and you're a loudmouth. Carry on with your case of Budweiser though.

mehwah

Medical use is way different then being a teenage dirt bag stoner.... just like using any other med it has its place but getting in the habit is usually a bad idea.

I've known people who used coke without any real bad effect too but I wouldn't recommend it as a life style for most people.

dirt_reynolds

Then making over reaching generalizations about depravity probably isn't the best course of action.

mehwah

Not really true.

When society normalizes something degenerate then you will always find people more likely to push the envelope and get fucked up

Back before everyone smoked weed normal people never touched hard drugs, only fucking hardcore loosers.. Back when fags had to keep it quiet you didn't have whole bunches of kids coming out as trannies or queers.

Back when porn was something rare you had to work to get hold of porn addicts were rare weirdo perverts rather then the plauge we have now.... and the porn itself?

Who the fuck ever stumbled across trannie porn in the 1990's or even 2000's?

What do you think kids watching that shit now will be like when their 30? 40? or 50?

Its a path- I dont really care what people do in private but what society 'says' is ok affects lives

Ocelot

pot is the devil

Not what he said, just what you imagined he said.

ignorant as fuck

ignorant

ignorant

loudmouth

preaching

What an extremely hysterical and feminine response to a very neutral comment. Nowhere did he say pot is the devil or has no medical uses, he stated that drugs weaken the mental state which leads to further depravity. You didn't address it at all, instead throwing a prissy little fit over an insult you imagined. Get a hold of yourself, white man.

mehwah

People like to justify their vices... its getting more common in our culture and TBH I dont care if people are stoners or spend hours jacking off to porn- its their own biz even if its bad.

zozimus

People like to justify their vices

What defines a vice? A vice is defined as a morally wrong act/behavior. Morals are relative, and you haven't really stated how the act of taking drugs in itself has any moral assignment.

Jacking off to porn to an obsessive degree - again, while I'd pity anyone afflicted with that habit, I don't see how it's a moral issue either. Is it good or bad, morally speaking, to jack-off all day to porn? And to note: the health (physical/mental) implications are irrelevant here as they don't factor into the moral weight of the act, just the consequences of it.

mehwah

Morals are relative

THAT is the path to degeneracy.... not getting at you personally but the idea that morals are relative is toxic and will always lead to people giving in to their physical urges (after all...why wouldn't they if anything 'can' go???)

That ALWAYS leads to the pepple who control the supply of those pleasures (the corner liquor store, the drug dealer the local pimp or the jewish owned pron industry) having power over those who suffer from these vices...... BTW a 'vice' is a pleasure that is either harmful or immoral though TBH immoral pleasures always are harmful in the way they erode your willpower and sense of right and wrong. People without a sense of right and wrong ALWAYS become slaves to those who control the pleasure.

NOW- I'm not getting at you personally, God knows I'm not in any way a paragon or virtue... but lets look at (say...) porn, even if it didnt weaken your self control and potentially your ability to settle down its totally immoral to fund the jewish owned porn industry that scoops up weak minded damaged girls and chews them up and spits them out in a worse state then they started

dirt_reynolds

You conveniently left out the degenerate part.

Ocelot

I have no idea how that's "convenient" or what your point even is. The comment you replied to also didn't say "pot is for degenerates", so that only reinforces what I said.

Podd

Oy vey, really struck a nerve.

dirt_reynolds

Indeed. Ignorant people usually do.

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

It's an excuse for degenerate, lazy living.

drhitler

go back to your oat meal, and arn't you due for you a new bowl haircut?

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

I cut my hair with a straight razor and a plumb bob, you gigantic kike faggot

XSS1337

5 day old account.

Go back to kikebook niggerfaggot

BaBs88

Oh look. Its you again. Thinking account age gives you any sort of credibility. Fucking faggot. You're just like the redditards. "Oh you post in the donald!! Hurrdurr. Oh your account is 5 days old"

XSS1337

Hi

Fuck off back to retardette

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

I would rather have a rabbi bite my dick, than go on FagBook, nigger

XSS1337

Just keep trying to camouflage yourself.

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

Your insight is not as profound as your obesity, sadly

XSS1337

You are a fucking kike and need your organs extracted while you are alive.

Jew children will die in horror as you watch filth.

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

I am not a filthy kike, but I do have a kike cock, which will be dilating your rectum very soon, nigger

XSS1337

Fuck off Rabbi, we will pump your children full of estrogen and watch them slowly commit suicide over the following years so they can burn in Hell

StBlops2cel_is_Lord

and I will pump yours full of my Jew semen, nigger