Steelerfish

Still more credible than Ron L Hubbard- and His Scientologist drones.

Pizzalurker15

Out of all the crazyd they at least have discipline and take the bible seriously

theKiernut

He'd hate being near that flag.

AnmanIndustries

This page sums up their bible very nicely.

https://www.gotquestions.org/New-World-Translation.html

"The New World Translation is unique in one thing – it is the first intentional, systematic effort at producing a complete version of the Bible that is edited and revised for the specific purpose of agreeing with a group’s doctrine. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower Society realized that their beliefs contradicted Scripture. So, rather than conforming their beliefs to Scripture, they altered Scripture to agree with their beliefs. The “New World Bible Translation Committee” went through the Bible and changed any Scripture that did not agree with Jehovah’s Witness theology. This is clearly demonstrated by the fact that, as new editions of the New World Translation were published, additional changes were made to the biblical text. As biblical Christians continued to point out Scriptures that clearly argue for the deity of Christ (for example), the Watchtower Society would publish new editions of the New World Translation with those Scriptures changed. "

blumen4alles

To be fair the Witnesses have one of the best indexes for a Bible I have ever seen. Makes it very easy to find things.

AnmanIndustries

Hmm? I am interested in that, as I wasn't aware of any differences. What are you referring to exactly?

Regardless, outside of technical study, I find such things as the verse and chapter system something that directly interferes with peoples ability to understand what is trying to be said. It becomes a catch phrase lookup, rather than a written account. People taking verses out of contexts when you need the entire chapter's context to get a meaning. Perhaps this is why the NWT is so well indexed?

blumen4alles

What are you referring to exactly?

At the back of their bible they have an extensive index, so if you wanted to find any mention of say "wolf" it would tell you every place that word occurs in the Bible. It makes it much easier to find passages than my other Bibles.

TBH I don't hold the Bible very high, I am more interested in the books removed or excluded from the Bible. None of it is really meant to be taken literally, and I detest people that try to make arguments or statements quoting passages. To me it just shows they are weak minded and unable to put words and ideas together themselves.

AnmanIndustries

Oh you mean a literal index. I was thinking of something else for some reason. Many physical bibles have indexes like that.

If God existed, wouldn't he have the power to control what is considered his right and just words?

Regardless, after studying most of the "excluded" books they are clearly not godly. Some are historically irrelevant but may be true, however as they have have nothing to do with god they are excluded. Some straight out tell people to do things that are not godly.

I have one last comment that obviously would not apply to you, but for anyone else reading. If you say god is X but the bible does not say anything about it, then you are making stuff up. Unless its in the bible or can be checked against the bible, you are making things up. Trying to put together an argument about god without the bible, like catholics, means you are using man made wisdom to make god.

blumen4alles

If God existed, wouldn't he have the power to control what is considered his right and just words?

Men wrote the Bible, not God. Now if you have a Bible which highlights quotes from Christ, that is one thing. Hopefully they were accurate when quoting Christ. But to say anything in the OT is the "word of god" seems childishly foolish to me. Christ was trying to help the rest of us transcend this prison.

I have had direct contact with the divine, the spirit of the living being we all live on here, whose matter my body is composed of. It was not easy and it took a while for me to return to baseline, but the god of the Old Testament, Yaldabaoth (it has many many names), is one sick demon. Just because it calls itself a god does not make it the God (Creator).

AnmanIndustries

If I rewrite what you have written, then I assume you are saying that I wrote it.

Any "direct" contact you have had with 'the divine" means you should be dead, so obviously you are talking about another god. Good luck with that.

blumen4alles

Trust me, I almost did die. In a way, I did.

con77

only 144,000 aree getting into heaven. Theres 1.2 million witnesses. who's getting left behind?

GeneralDisposition

The 144,000 are from the original twelve tribes of REAL Israelites. Not these posers we have now. The number of saved "others" is talked about in revelation. They have white robes and are under the mercy seat. The bible says that they are more in number then the sands of the sea. That is A LOT of sand!

con77

"there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on earth" Carl Sagan. Cosmos.

Secret555

That is what I always wondered and I have asked them about it outright. I never truly got an answer but I imagine they think of it as a lottery of sorts. Where only the best of the 1.2 million deserve to go. Therefore they see themselves as having already won.

blumen4alles

12x12x1000

12 is a very interesting number, 12 months, 12 hours is half a day, etc

Interesting you gave the number 1.2 million, another 12!

con77

It's a cult.