Masks are about compliance not safety ( conspiracy )

submitted by con77

A properly fitted N95 mask filters down to 300 nm. The covid virus is a fraction of that. I quit wearing a mask a month ago. No one says shit.

noob_tube

Compliance is about safety for (((you know you))).

ArcturianDeathTrap2

In this case, the masks are to prevent any contagion FROM GOING OUT. From coming in, you need a sealed full-face mask

con77

the sick should wear them. They should also stay home

MrDarkWater

Nobody says shit now.

CrackerSlant

You need more advanced PPE and training along with a support staff and proper facilities to stop a respiratory virus.

Look at the military and their NBC equipment and training, it fucking sucks balls ask any serviceman.

If it were a real danger, everyone would have dropped dead around you already.

CDC 19-0994 is a study looking at decades of info and concluded nothing prevents the spread of influenza outside medical environments using non-standard PPE.

con77

on the bright side thats the perfect position to deliver a coup de grace

GutterTrash

You must not be from Ca because the sheep will gang up on you and have the authority to have you arrested for thinking for yourself.

con77

lived in santa barbara '84-'86. Beautiful town. Too bad theyre all insane

Mugman

Never wore one since day 1. Why? Because my town is still mainly local businesses

con77

i live the the most densely populated county in Fl. Its rare when someone doesnt wear one. I do not. The charade has to end.

Brotherhoodlum

From CDC:

Potential benefits/advantages

likely advantages of the use of masks by healthy people in the general public include:

...

•reduced potential stigmatization of individuals wearing masks to prevent infecting others (source control) or of

people caring for COVID-19 patients in non-clinical settings (70)

•making people feel they can play a role in contributing to stopping spread of the virus

•reminding people to be compliant with other measures (e.g., hand hygiene, not touching nose and mouth). However, this can also have the reverse effect (see below);

•potential social and economic benefits. Amidst the global shortage of surgical masks and PPE, encouraging the public to create their fabric masks day promote individual enterprise and continuity integration. Moreover. the production of non-medical masks may offer a source of income for those able to manufacture masks within their communities. Fabric masks can also be a form of cultural expression. encouraging public compliance and awareness.

•consider the feasibility of use, supply/access issues, social and psychological acceptance (of both wearing and not weaning different types of masks in different contexts);

con77

"•making people feel they can play a role in contributing to stopping spread of the virus"

so its to calm their fee fees and virtue signal. I could give a shit about that

thebearfromstartrack

I agree.

dampkitty

And droplet sizes are bigger. You people are just dumb, at least try and help yourselves not die

doginventer

Two Studies MASKS AEROSOLIZE COVID - Two studies show that masks actually do MORE to aerosol the virus than NOT wearing masks, especially DIY masks.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/gi4OrMfjtfAA/

dampkitty

Don't post bitchute tinfoil, post the actual studies.

here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7

cherry picking data isn't that convincing when the people actually doing the study still concluded " Our observations are consistent with suggestions that mask wearing can help in mitigating pandemics associated with respiratory disease"

Too_The_Point

It's comical that a study done in late Sept still can't tell us if cloth masks do anything towards stopping the virus.

Still gotta wear it though, because reasons.

dampkitty

Yep, looks like nobody in the world has actually thought about what to do if something really bad gets released into the wild. I guess we all die, lol

Too_The_Point

You can relax then, Covid isn't "really bad".

Statistically, it's just a cold/flu season where an anomalous amount of elderly folks passed.

Instead of wasting your energy on pushing masks, you should be looking in to why so many elderly people died, and in which states they passed.

dampkitty

That's the same as ignoring the effects of nigger immigration by suggesting women would have been raped by a Whitey anyway.

People are still going to die from Flu, but now more of them are going to die from this

"3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected"

Too_The_Point

Not in the slightest. Somehow you've made a worse analogy than the seatbelt/mask analogy.

Death rates as a whole are flat going back several years. You are pushing fake #'s. Elderly folks in select states died, that's all you have here.

dampkitty

I'm talking about death rates from covid, not flu

Too_The_Point

And I'm talking all deaths. Not just the flu or covid. All deaths.

There has been no rise in death this year.

Fukredditt

It's an airborne virus meaning large droplets are not required for transmission. It has spread just through building ventilation. Normal masks becomes saturated within minutes so provide zero protection. The provide negative protection since they are a new vector for contamination and spread. You don't know what you are talking about and there is ample evidence masks are at best ineffective shown in previous year studies. In the current year we can compare infection rates in mask vs no mask jurisdictions and compare transmission of other seasonal diseases such as flu. Masks are not helping and there is some evidence they are harmful and mildly increase risk. To make masks effective you would need hospital level sanitation, frequent mask change, constant hand washing, treat used masks as bio hazmat. National mask mandates are kabuki theater fear porn to control the masses.

dampkitty

" It is possible for COVID-19 aerosols (small droplets and droplet nuclei) to spread through HVAC systems "

- read this bit between the brackets. what do you think "fog" is?

"You don't know what you are talking about"

That's right, and neither do you. "The World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now include face masks in their recommendations for slowing the spread of the virus."

Too_The_Point

If you're worried about Covid more than all of the other airborne junk we breathe in daily, you have bigger problems than a mask.

Why haven't we been wearing masks every flu season? Why does any ole mask do the job, as long as your face is covered?

Because it's not about safety. It's about sowing division, they knew in America that our freedoms would put citizen vs citizen.

See through the fog, bozo.

Too_The_Point

Airborne≠aerosol.

Your argument is based on a misunderstanding of an English word.

Learn English, then worry about telling other people what to do.

Fukredditt

Sure they are- it's great for business! Oh ho the great gushers of money flowing their way. The longer we keep it in the news the better for them. Very few are dying so the risk is lower than standard flu season. Over age 74 risk of death is higher than flu. Average age of death 84.5. Under 18 risk of death is like 1 in 10,000 cases. If you are elderly or for example a cancer patient do what you can to avoid infection. Otherwise just get on with life.

blackguard19

Lol we feel fine. Don’t think any of us are scared of a fake virus.

dampkitty

Nobody is calling you scared, we (as in the rest of the world) are just calling you dumb for not taking basic/free/zero-inconvenience precautions.

loratheelf

Masks are not free if you have to buy the hateful things, and btw I support the idea going around now of imposing a 200% sales tax on masks.

How can you say that masks are zero inconvenience? The things are an annoyance and are making us sick, both by increasing the spread of the virus and mask related illnesses.

Basic precautions would include avoiding crowds, keeping things clean, taking care of your physical and mental health. Masks go against every one of those.

Plus look at all the hatred we see from mask cultists who have turned it into a religion. The things are pure evil.

Too_The_Point

And we are calling you all non critical thinkers.

It's not free if you are purchasing your own masks.

It's not zero inconvenience when you can't go visit your family. Or go to work. Or make a living wage.

It's not called a basic precaution when there are no peer reviewed studies showing the efficacy of masks. It's called forced compliance.

In America, forced compliance is naturally resisted, and eventually met with violence. At this stage you are only seeing the natural resistance. Stand back and stand by if you think all Americans will be muzzled.

dampkitty

here's a dollar ( $1 ), go buy a 1,000 masks...

"In America, forced compliance is naturally resisted"

No, it's the same group of dummies who think seatbelts are oppressing them...

Too_The_Point

The seat belt analogy really doesn't make sense, a seat belt doesn't stop you from getting in to a crash.

In order for the analogy to work, the seatbelt would need to be the orange juice and extra sleep that makes you better after catching a cold.

A better analogy would be placing giant inflatable bubble around your car so that no one could hit you in the first place.

Sounds ridiculous doesn't it?

dampkitty

I trust a 1/10 penny plaster to keep dirt out of a cut. 99% of the time I'm going to be fine without one, but people have lost limbs to infections.

The analogy is fine, its a basic recognition of what the risks are and what is the cheapest/easiest thing I can do to mitigate them.

And to address your last point, yes cars have airbags too

Too_The_Point

Do airbags deploy before an accident? What kind of car do you drive? Cause I don't want to be in that car.

The analogy doesn't make any sense, but it's the one the left has grabbed on to.

Seatbelts don't stop accidents, they lessen the severity of human injury in an accident.

Masks are not being pushed to lessen the severity of a COVID infection.

It's apples to oranges. Clear as day.

dampkitty

You are re-framing the analogy, my point was that it is risk mitigation, not that it completely stops anything. Get a hazmat suit if you expect that

Yes they are used to reduce severity, the lower the viral load, the more chance the immune system can delay/stop this

Too_The_Point

Stop reframing the analogy?

My entire statement was pointing out how you were reframing the analogy. Wow.

Your analogy does not make sense, and you are using one safety measure(seatbelts) to push another(any form of face covering), which is completely unnecessary for 99% of the population.

QCrumbCatcher

5 sheckles have been deposited in your shill account. Thank you for your service.

dampkitty

fucking jew, I asked for 100 :/

flashmans_nutcup

We're not dumb. By wearing a mask you are:

implying people wash their hands before and after donning the mask

implying people don't shove the mask in their pockets/bag after use

implying surgical masks aren't for use in hospitals by trained professionals

implying these masks were designed for use by the general public

implying people wear the mask as they were designed to be worn

implying that masks are not a damp, warm environment that bacteria love to reproduce in

implying that people dispose of the mask properly after use

implying that people wear a new mask every time they wear one

implying that masks don't constrict breathing

implying that mandating masks by law isn't an egregious and authoritarian application of the law

implying people shouldn't be allowed to decide for themselves how to manage their own health

implying that people wash and dry non-surgical masks (cloth masks/homemade masks) after each use

implying that there is a scientific consensus among scientists and medics over the use of masks

implying that the scientific evidence that masks reduce viral spread is extremely weak at best

implying that the scientific advice was for the general public NOT to wear face masks (see Dr. Fauci stating this in the video linked below)

implying that goverments don't lie and distort the scientific evidence to fit their agendas

implying masks don't muffle speech making it difficult for the hard of hearing

implying covering the face isn't a huge barrier to communication

implying that people with a genuine medical condition don't get abuse in shops, public transport etc

implying that mask wearing isn't designed to demoralise people and make them more afraid

implying that you are not an authoritarian freedom-hating bootlicking NPC absolute cunt who hates freedom

https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI?t=19

I could go on and provide more examples of why your post is utter horseshit, but there's a limit to how long I can keep typing.

Now FUCK OFF.

dampkitty

"implying people shouldn't be allowed to decide for themselves how to manage their own health" - I love this one, lol

That's the most faggot list I've read so far

China (Mainland)- Total cases 91,252

United States - Total cases 7,800,000

and China has x4 the population...

you are not dealing with the problem because you have your heads stuck up your arse crying about your rights, you are a nation of babies

loratheelf

If people do not stand up for their rights, those rights will be lost.

The Constitution doesn't get suspended just because of a virus.

dampkitty

Yep, can't have Typhoid Mary being oppressed by Big Pharma can we?

...unreal

loratheelf

Even putting Typhoid Mary in a mask would be useless. The things don't work and are not about the virus and never were.

Too_The_Point

You believe China is giving us real data?

Do you remember when China lied to the world about Human to Human transmission?

How about when China shut down travel within their own borders, but not the rest of the world?

Do you think China has altruistic intentions regarding the extermination of this virus?

dampkitty

No I think they are lying.

but I also believe that any country that is happy to weld people's front door shut to stop it spreading, and can test a city of 5 million people in a few days over a reported 12 infections, is going to be better than the rest of the world in coping with this. You guys are still going on biker rallies ffs

Too_The_Point

You think they are lying but believe the rest of that crap? China would weld their citizen's doors shut for no reason at all if they wanted to.

That's the difference between China and the US, the Constitution gives it's citizen's rights that no other country has.

How did you corner yourself in to defending China in this convo?

dampkitty

I'm not "defending China", I' just pointing out that by default, Totalitarian societies are much more effective at forcing a population to act towards a goal than any democracy could.

Imagine a virus much more infectious than this, China could nail everyone down for a month and kill it dead. Americans would still be demanding to sing in a church.

To a lessor extent that's what we are seeing now, America's cases are rising, other countries are levelling out. The only reason your society hasn't reacted yet is that it's not killing anyone you know.

Too_The_Point

You are categorically defending China. Come off it, bro.

flashmans_nutcup

So you agree that China are lying but also believe they tested 5 million people in a few days? You're a fucking nutter.

con77

sheep

Maroonsaint

Weak shit op. I decided from day one I wasn’t wearing a mask. I was a dick to anyone who said anything. Even before I knew this virus was harmless I was like fuck it, I’m taking 0 precautions. If I die I die. My reasoning is that if god wants you dead you’re probably fucked anyways so why fight fate.

Seventh_Jim

I got kicked out of a methy dive bar last night over it.

Like, open secret the bartender is on shit kinda place; but ya gotta have a mask apparently.

Swiiirlyhunter

You are wise in your insanity

Maroonsaint

Everyone running around like they’re not on a timer

nwguy

masks are for surgery.

Maroonsaint

There was a time I Wanted to get high so bad I debated taking a hammer and breaking my fingers so they would prescribe me pain pills. I remember walking around my garage looking at tools thinking about how I would do it.

cyclops1771

Masks during surgery cause more infections in patients.