canbot

While what he is saying is perfectly logical, how do we know he is really a doctor? I am not trying to attack this with ad hominems, but it's really important to verify credentials before spreading videos like this. If it were to come out that this guy is larping it would be used to skewer skeptics, even though his credentials aren't what makes his arguments right or wrong. We need people with authority to start pushing back because and all the sheep worship authority figures. We need authority figures to step forward officially to break the media's spell.

thebearfromstartrack

Just the HANDLING of the vaccine is so FULL of CRAP (eg -99 degrees storage, two stage administering of one of them), it's going to be a DISASTER to SOME extent.

apple-bag

im starting to get the idea that the vaccine will be the killer

totes_magotes

Anyone can dress in scrubs and sit in a restaurant breakroom and talk shit. Until I see this retard's name, he's just a larper.

Helena73

Who knows. I didn’t see evidence he was a doctor. He didn’t identify himself.

QCrumbCatcher

Can I get a QRD on this? What's the bait and switch?

ilovejuices3

Shitty titles are annoying.

The bait and switch is the government saying that you need a mask to do things, once everyone is compliant, then saying you need a vaccine to do things.

QCrumbCatcher

Thank you sir.

QCrumbCatcher

Can I get a qrd on this?

acesneights

Our 'leaders' are literally terrorists.

Chingchongtingtong

Thanks ti this guy. He probably just gave up his career to let inform others. I wish I could be as strong.

B3H0ldAPal3H0rs3

And another good doctor that will loose his job or be killed...

Sumeriansister

Lose...

Nowhiteguilt22

After 5 years of this children will accept this as normal. They will then be more likely to support laws based on this.

The big H said something like.

Give me your children and I will show you the future

Nowhiteguilt22

I am sure there will be a way to fake vaccination certificates

pray_the_gay_away

You can probably make counterfeits but they will also have a registry database, perhaps even a barcode for quick lookup. It might be able to get you into a bar but not on a plane.

Rotteuxx

That's where bribing doctors comes in...

Atomicanon

That's his nose I thought it was the arrow to start the video..

Not sarcasm...

clubberlang

Powerful message unfortunately warning ⚠️ video in niggervision

AntiMason

This guy is cracking and rightly so.

tjuesju

Says:

he doesn't want to get graphic

After describing patient who attempted suicide and blew their head apart.

badruns

Hard on me too yada yada boohoo, but I imagine that bluepilled people who do not have an understanding of what is truly happening in the world are terribly confused by most of this.

500five

True, but if everyone who watches MSM saw this guy's video it would target the same emotional parts of their brain like MSM does.

Killnigs3

he could get a lot more technical and describe the feeling of the skull and the smell and the look in the persons dying eyes coulda been way worse

tjuesju

What do you think it would smell like, gunpowder and iron (from the blood)?

Fried-Laptop

Predominately shit.

Bowels tend to evacuate

Killnigs3

brains ive hear have a distinct smell most organs have a distinct smell with diff smells based on thejr heath or condition etc

Killnigs3

could even smell like seared meat the brains could have fried depending on the gun

Killnigs3

lmao adds without trannies what a concept

AR47

How will this certificate be made? A piece of paper? Who will fund this?

Where will it be made?

How can the "swamp" or your chosen name for "them" get all states to comply?

So many questions that need answered before the leap to some massive scale event like this will be implemented.

Billistics

There's an app for that, if you don't want to carry a phone they can give you an RFID chip.

AR47

NO THEY WON'T..... you know how much that would cost? To train people how to scan for it?

Billistics

Probably a buck a person. You think you need to train people to scan a QR code? I didn't seem to take much training for people to tap their debit card. Same deal.

AR47

They will need to provide the equipment to do that scan.....the ones administering the scan won't use their phones....it will need a wireless connection so data plan as the information will be under medical records laws and need to be on a closed network or transmitted to that network without being intercepted.

Seriously look at these things.....all of this is cost that takes money from other items.

Billistics

They will need to provide the equipment to do that scan.....the ones administering the scan won't use their phones....it will need a wireless connection so data plan as the information will be under medical records laws and need to be on a closed network or transmitted to that network without being intercepted.

Sounds like they'll make a QR code scanner for $100 bucks. I don't see much resistance from people getting a Stripe card reader to take payments. If they the same NFT tech in phones that run your debit card, they may be able to get their payment terminal to run double duty.

Seriously look at these things.....all of this is cost that takes money from other items.

Maybe you're not aware but the government acts like they have no money but they always seem to have money to do what they want to do.

AR47

Then belive everything and everyone is against you....live with paranoia and constant suspicion.

Hope you have a better day than yesterday

Billistics

Not everyone, just the government.

Glory_Beckons

All these questions are insignificant noise.

You didn't always need a license to drive. You didn't always need insurance to have a car. You didn't always need training or licenses to hunt, or to fish, or do any number of other things.

And now you do. And they found their pieces of paper. And they found their funds (or yours, rather). And they made all the states play along.

There's no leap involved. It's really easy. They do it all the time. And they'll do it again.

All they need, is for you to do nothing about it.

AR47

Then fear is what you propose?

Just make sure to fear everything and suspect at all times because that state of constant paranoid behavior works so well?

Seriously you people need to just relax......or don't and let that shit consume you.

Glory_Beckons

That is not what I proposed. And you neglected to even try to point out where I am wrong.

Glory_Beckons

???

Your point being? You think they won't be able to come up with exactly the same kind of rationalization for covid?

Here, watch:

Corona licenses were implemented because many people failed to conform to health and safety standards in the workplace and in public, and so it was necessary in order to enable reopening the economy and to allow everyone to return to their new normal.

There. Done and dusted. Anyone who disagrees is just being selfish.

I don't even know why you need this to be spelled out, or why you thought your list of excuses somehow made those licenses totally different from this license. All licenses are based on exactly the same sheepish mindset and brainless compliance: The idea that we need the government's help and permission to do anything beyond wiping our asses. Give them enough time, and enough naive fools like you, and they'll get to that one as well.

AR47

Ok so the reasons I "done and dusted" your examples hold no bearing on how bullshit they were?

So you move the goal posts to suddenly conform to your bias and make some shit up, but you dont realize how a vaccine cannot be mandatory....religion for example of the protected class....like Muslim or Jews if you wanna use the racist angle.....they won't take it as it will not be allowed under their belief.

Then you have Americans with disabilities that can say whatever they want........

Fail better comrade.

Glory_Beckons

What are you even talking about? You're just blabbering incoherently at this point.

Did any such concerns stop them from implementing any of their previous licenses? Or any of their other infringements on our freedoms?

Next you'll tell me it's simply impossible for the government to suspend freedom of assembly or to fine people for going to church. Oh wait. THEY ALREADY DID.

If some small "protected class" minority kicks up a fuss, they do what they always do in those situations. They quietly make exceptions for them. And carry on enforcing on everyone who doesn't fight back. This is nothing new. We're not talking about some crazy, unprecedented, never seen before behavior. We're talking about the same shit they have done over and over and over again. And they keep doing it, because you keep being too fucking stupid to see it coming, even when it's spelled out for you.

You boomer-brained retard.

AR47

Sure....resort to labels so you can dehumanize someone and make it easier to vilify them.

Your wrong....time will show it...you and those like you will find something else to focus on. It is what people like you do.....propagate fear to gain favor and produce a following.

Never address the person discussing something with you...its downvote and label.....seriously get better at this or form a better theory.

Glory_Beckons

I didn't downvote a single one of your comments here. Want screenshots?

I also gave you several paragraphs of thought-out arguments and sound reasoning, and didn't resort to being belligerently dismissive until you did.

Believe what you like. Time will tell.

And when it does, you will forget. Or at least you'll pretend you did. As you always do. Because you'll buy into those little lies they'll sell you. Because that's easier than the alternative. Because, then, you can keep pretending that everything is fine. And you won't feel the need to risk your hide to do anything about it. Which is why everything is the way it is. And why it will only get worse.

Instead of whining about being labeled, you should be asking yourself, why, if the label is so meaningless and undeserved, why, then, is it so obvious what you are? It's not about your age, or when you were born. Nobody cares about that.

There is a distinct pattern of behaviors and mindsets that are as unmistakable as they are toxic. And that's not something meaningless. That's not something you are born with and can't do anything about. It is something significant. It is something that affects those around you. And it is, most certainly, on you .

AR47

Several paragraphs?

Lol you wrote 4 examples to which I addressed each one and the reasons by which they were implemented....each one. They all check out...they all make sense, and can be looked up for anyone wondering.

The money for hunting license is even shown where the money goes to the penny with each states web portal for hunting....maybe not every state, but I know mine does and on the receipt.

You need validation for your bias and its only bias...you need to be right so bad you will name call, vilify, and pretend as if you dont understand to dismiss opposition. You won't dispute what I said...you will just throw out more false narratives.

Time and time....people far better than you do this on reddit......more on Twitter, and they are paid professionals at this...you are not, and it shows because you wont dispute what I said for reasons of why other license you named were implemented.

I addressed your counter with a page that the DOD explicitly said NOT AN ID, and then the AP article that so many used because every single link on search results links to it via a host of outlets said it isnt mandatory due to the religious aspects and ADA exemption.

Yet there you are.....using your superior intelligence to label me, now you try to be the nice guy with this comment to barter you some support.

Honestly I don't care if you called me a kike nosed nigger dick sucker or a boomer....its all a label to dehumanizing so that you can justify in your mind that I am less than you.....its obvious you can't have a discussion with opposition because this is where you go.

Far as downvote....no....I don't need you to quickly alter your screen to capture an image. Your insignificant contribution to the point scaling doesn't effect my overall in the slightest.

Real people here know me....met me, had a meal with me even....you know....not some activity that will matter nothing by tommrow....reason being is that next year come summer I still won't have a Vax and I will still be traveling the USA going state to state.....no blockade....no impediment.....because your fear doesn't motivate me.

It disappoints me.....much as most of the content within this site.....yours is like so many....zero validity and not a shred of intelligence to it.

You have a better day than yesterday stranger....or don't and keep on the train.

Glory_Beckons

Lol you wrote 4 examples to which I addressed each one and the reasons by which they were implemented....each one. They all check out...

They're also all completely irrelevant to the point. I don't see how or why you think any of that matters.

Yes, they named "reasons" why they required those licenses, certifications, fees, etc. And? What is your point?

You think they won't be able to come up with "reasons" this time? They've already found "reasons" enough to shut half the country down, destroy 50 million jobs, and put the population on de facto house arrest... but you think they'll come up short finding "reasons" to make you get a vaccination certificate? I can't underclock my brain enough to figure out how that can possibly make sense to you. You have to be a really special kind of stupid.

This is why I called you a retard. It's not even an insult. I'm genuinely wondering whether you are actually clinically retarded at this point.

and it shows because you wont dispute what I said for reasons of why other license you named were implemented.

There's nothing to dispute here. You stated several obvious facts that are true but irrelevant. Stating facts that are true doesn't make you right. It has to connect. There has to be a point. You might as well have said the grass is green and the sky is blue. Yes. That's right. They are. Well done. So what?

You haven't made a point. What is your point?

Far as downvote....no....I don't need you to quickly alter your screen to capture an image. Your insignificant contribution to the point scaling doesn't effect my overall in the slightest.

For someone who isn't concerned with it, you sure talk about it a lot.

I addressed your counter with a page that the DOD explicitly said NOT AN ID, and then the AP article

You haven't linked or referenced anything in responses to me.

How about I link you to something: https://www.rt.com/usa/509061-new-york-vaccine-mandate/

Here's some highlights:

Such a mandate would be triggered into effect if public health officials determine that New Yorkers “are not developing sufficient immunity from Covid-19,” the bill says. The only exceptions would be people who have exemptions written by their doctors for medical reasons.

There's your reason.

The bill was referred to the State Assembly’s Health Committee for discussion. It was introduced weeks after the New York State Bar Association passed a resolution urging the state to mandate Covid-19 vaccinations and deny exemptions for “religious, philosophical or personal reasons.”

And there go your religious rights, straight out the window.

Wait, wait... I have visions... of you whining... "B-but, t-that's just New York! It w-would never happen anywhere else!"

Time always tells. And you'll always find excuses.

AR47

Ok then

Have a better day than yesterday.

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c0ck

This is the correct answer.

AR47

No it isn't a correct answer...it is leading to a conclusion.

DL were implemented because many people were never administered correct road rules that conformed to standards...hell it wasn't even until the 70s we got all stop signs to look the same.....

Insurance was because 99% of people driving can't compensate their income for a fucking slurpee much less a head on collision....

Hunting and fishing licenses are to compensate income revenue for conservation and for fish to restock local places when they run low.

Training is done because many dont know how to use a firearm.

You know there are a great many people in the nation than the few you know?

noob_tube

COVID licenses are for public health and safety

Try drinking less koolaid

AR47

I never said it was....I posted what I did for the NOT AN ID

chirogonemd

DOD released an image of a vaccination card just last week. It was posted on Voat. It's wallet-sized so you can carry it around, and the interesting detail was that it was also meant to remind you about your next dose, which was a tip that this vaccine is probably going to be a recurring thing. Sterilization doesn't happen from one dose of a vaccine.

chirogonemd

I stand corrected. Although we'll see how it goes in practice.

AR47

I agree...cross the bridge when it is in the path....until then....plan for Christmas and family....fuck all this propaganda to influence a reaction of outrage when zero substance to the discussion is given....

I am likely one of the most tin foil hat types you will ever talk to.

I carry 2wk of MRE with me always, a trauma pack, and an AR15 pistol in 7.62x39 with three 30rnd mags and an extra 500rnds always.....

Everything I have in my truck has a backup. Phone, rations, provisions, gun parts, even have another complete upper and lower parts kit just in case.

Yet I have realized that so much of the shit you see now days online is just fear porn.

mr_anthrope

How will this certificate be made?

Cell phone app with a QR code that could be scanned, and the money to fund it will be added to the National Debt and states will be forced to comply (most will voluntarily do it) the usual way, with D.C. withholding or giving funds contingent on them using the vaccine tracker app. I hope they don't do it, but they can do whatever they want as we've seen over the past few months.

AR47

Not everyone has a phone.....when I fly i dont.

Rotteuxx

Doctors will get rich singing off for cash.

AR47

Ok..doesn't answer anything I asked does it?

These far out theories needs to make sense for fucks sake....not just some random person in scrubs looking as if they have some authority....I don't belive this guy is anything other than a janitor if that....likely a bed pusher if anything.

Clean clothes, fresh eyes, calm as can be....no fuck this propaganda....show the trail that leads to the idea you have in videos like this....give it some substance

CultureOfCritique

The Dept of Defense, which under Trump is involved in distributing the fast-tracked vaccines, has already released their official vaccination card which will track whether you've had your shots. Many groups are pushing for certificates that are digital, biometric, or a combination of both so that you can't fake one. This coincidentally would allow them to track your every movement and deny you services at will because "your paperwork doesn't seem to be in order".

AR47

It has already been said it is not a form of ID and is completely optional.....no method of tracking will be done as many religions and even a host of other reasons will be used to not take it.

Try harder to pump that fear.

CultureOfCritique

Sure, that's how it will start. But airlines, healthcare companies, and many others are alreaady saying they will require their employees, customers, etc. to have the shot (so it will be essentially mandatory to do anything and go anywhere eventually).

In terms of tracking, sure, the original DoD card won't have that capability. That's why the UN has been pushing for biometric ID under ID2020 and Bill Gates and others are pushing for things like the "quantum dot tattoo" which can't be faked since it's part of your body. If you have to scan your ID anywhere you go, doesn't that make it especially easy to track you?

AR47

The costs to implement such a thing are just not going to be absorbed by these industries.....and the government doesn't have the capital to do it either. Too much red tape involved and I don't see it happening.

Eventually it is possible, but in yours or my lifetime....nope.

You can't even see their cooperation to get needed relief for Industries now, and you think something like ID2020 will happen? Lol.

CultureOfCritique

Anything is possible for them to implement if they care enough. They've already put facial recognition in airports-- did you ever expect that they could recognize your face out of thousands using automated software in your lifetime? Did you ever expect that you could be tracked everywhere you go by your cell phone? This is no science fiction; it is rapidly becoming reality. Get your head out of the sand.

AR47

I expect that no corporate entity is responsible to uphold my rights as a citizen....I go into an airport it is their rules and if I want to use their services offered I am free to do so or not.

Its why I don't fly.

AR47

Did you read ANY other publications that were not the associated press copy?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/verify/vaccine-vaccination-card-not-id-covid-coronavirus-dod-vaccine-cards-cdc-vaccine-cards-what-does-it-mean-how-to-know-when-to-get-vaccinated-covid19/65-a346c11e-d538-4ecf-a17c-dfeb971b48e1

That one even?

How can they impose it mandatory when specified religious types wont do it....or even people like me....I won't take it, and I assure you I will still travel the USA all next year.

CultureOfCritique

Good luck with that. They'll make it mandatory and you'll shut up and comply like a good goy.

AR47

We will see, but I can tell you now that I will not be taking that Vax.

I will also be free to travel anywhere i want or the trucks I inspect will not be done. Seeing as there are very few companies that will travel to the site and chase that shit down.....I am betting exceptions will be made.

Atkho

See's schnoz. Closes video nope

Billistics

Bad 'tude. He's only saying surface level shit that you've heard before.

Helena73

Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, doxycyline and many other drugs are

1.) proven to inhibit SARS CoV 2 in vitro in infected human cells, i.e. they shut down the infection because the virus can’t reproduce.

2.) proven to work in patients when given early (before patients progress to severe form)

3.)Can be taken prophylactically in low doses long term. HCQ and doxycyline are used long term for all kinds of conditions. They will prevent most cases and reduce the severity of infection. They will also lessen “asymptomatic” spread.

When people push you around on the mask shit or the social distancing push back with these facts. Demand antivirals prophylactically and otc for covid.

canbot

The father of a friend recently died from Covid. The doctors literally refused to treat him with HCQ. They even demanded it under the right to try legislation. It is down right murder as far as I'm concerned.

speaktruthandenter

he didn’t die of covid

Helena73

I have not used it but I hear that speakwithanmd .com is very cooperative about prescribing HCQ. Sorry about your friend’s dad.

My researched belief is that, if you start it right after symptoms start it will save almost everybody.

beefartist

The drugs you talk about work but it doesn't really have anything to do with COVID (that's not what is making people sick). Also search out the natural analogues like quinine (wild or cinchona bark), pine spirits/turpentine, there are others)

Helena73

The drugs Ive mentioned work and it does have to due with covid. These drugs as well as quinine have been shown to inhibit the virus in vitro. I have no idea if pine spirits have been tested on sars cov 2 in vitro. Probably not.

HCQ may be slightly better than quinine in terms of side effects and drug sensitivity but they will work similarly on covid. Quinine isn’t better because its natural. 7 to 10 liters of tonic water a week (brand names are better) should get you into the prophylactic zone (420-600 mg quinine base/wk)

Bigz_Sarducci

So a glass of tonic water a day keeps the covid away?

beefartist

The good shit in quinine will kill and prevent all sorts of baddies (NOT COVID because it is bullshit). Commercial tonic water apparently is largely diluted so best to get the real deal (wild quinine, cinchona bark, etc.)

Bigz_Sarducci

The ppm to drinking tonic water and getting the medical amount is alot. But it does have its purpose.

Helena73

I am fairly confident about the content of name brands like schweppes and canada dry being around 65mg of quinine base a liter, if they haven’t changed their recipe in the last year— cinchona is undoubtedly in high demand, they do not manufacture it synthetically. Other generics might have only 50 mg /liter or less. Legally 83mg/liter is allowed but it doesn’t seem to ever have that much. Quinine fluoresces under UV black light in the dark so you can compare brands— you may be able to tell a difference of +-20% concentration difference.

Unfortunately you can’t boil off the water content without destroying quinine.

Typical doses of quinine sulfate for acute malaria are around 1200 mg a day to as much as 1800 mg a day of quinine sulfate (600mg for people with kidney disease). Quinine sulfate is 83% quinine, so I figure an equivalent dose of quinine base is about 1000mg. That would be a safety limit for me, maybe much less for people with cardiac, diabetic and kidney issues.

1000 mg is like 16 liters of tonic a day.

But I suspect a dose of around 300 or 350mg (5 or 6 liters) would make a big difference in the viral load if used at onset of symptoms.

Another solution is tonic syrup concentrate. Top Hat makes a sugar and sugar-free version. I like the sugar free one for obvious reasons. The claim is that it has 5x the quinine of regular tonic (5x 50mg? 5x 83 mg? Who knows? But it clearly has more than the regular tonic water) Its $20 a quart on amazon (less in bulk) but I have not bought any yet. You might want to approximate the concentration of quinine with a UV light unless you own a fluorometer. Lol. This would be one way to get around drinking all that tonic, but I am much less confident about the quinine content of that product, which makes me nervous about recommending it.

I would be even less confident about doses derived from extracting quinine out of cinchona bark. But again you might be able to eyeball it with a UV light and comparing it to tonic water in various concentrations. I think the top hat thing is probably easier though.

Realize that people with kidney or heart issues would be particularly vulnerable to overdose issues if you fucked up. Also a significant number of people have an allergy to quinine.

Hope I didn’t go overboard on the information dump. Ive researched quinine a little bit over the last few months.

beefartist

Some is WAY better than none but for the cost of the stuff I would assume you can make your own for less and have a higher dosage

Bigz_Sarducci

True

Helena73

4 to 8 cups of tonic water (~60 to 120mg quinine base) will probably prevent most covid infections and lessen the severity of the ones it doesn’t. That’s an educated guess. A liter a day should make a significant difference. Brand names have higher concentrations.

chrimony

Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, doxycyline and many other drugs

Take vitamin D supplements. There's a reason flu and corona viruses spread in winter. Studies have shown Vitamin D reduces respiratory infections.

It's amazing that such a simple and cheap preventative, that our bodies need anyways, has not gotten widespread recommendation. All this focus on masks and drugs.

Pray4Truth

I can confirm the importance of vitamin D.

I've spent half my adult life sunbathing on tropical beaches. I never got any colds or flu when I was living on tropical islands.

Foolishly, it's only recently that I made the connection and I started taking vitamin D supplements. Since I started taking vitamin D, I have had one occasion where I got a sneezy nose one evening. I was expecting it to progress into a full blown cold with a cough lasting at least a week. However, I woke up the next morning and I was fine. My body had fought it off in one evening.

It's crazy that it took me so long to realize the importance of vitamin D, and vitamins in general.

Helena73

UV light and or heat, humidity destroy a lot of flu like viruses. Also it is hard to transmit alot of them outdoors because of air circulation. I am very white, sunbathing is not for me, supplementation will do.

beefartist

Folks should buy some know it is starting to dry up on shelves (don't hoard, pricks you don't need that much :))...I assume the raw materials for it come from China so it isn't going to get more common on shelves

Helena73

The reason flu and covid spread in the winter and not summer is complex and has to due with humidity, temperature, hours of UV light a day, and maybe some other factors as well. Vitamin D may be a piece of this. But mostly it will mitigate the severe inflamation that occurs in the severe form of the disease.

My go to vitamins for covid are C, D, and zinc.

Prophylactically during flu season:

Vit. C: 1000 to 2000 mg

Vit. D: 1000 to 2000 IU

zinc: 20 or 30 mg daily

If you get covid:

Vit. C: 5000 to 10,000 mg or higher

Vit. D: 5000 to 10,000 IU or higher

Zinc: 60 to 75 mg daily

C and D are safe in very high doses and some places are using insanely high vitamin C doses (over 30,000 mg iv) for severe patients!

Taking those 3 vitamins are probably as important as any drug, especially if you are old and deficient.

But I like my drugs too.

BearDolphin1488

WHERE ARE YOUR CHOLDREN??? WHY DO YOU EAT SEMEN?

Helena73

This is your kid

https://files.catbox.moe/hhkc3j.jpg

Awww!

Bigz_Sarducci

Vitamin C must be the Ester C version (absorbs C better). 10,000 mg might give some diarrhea so 6,000-8,000 is good. Keep in mind Vitamin C is water soluble (means you piss out what you take in). Turamic with curcurmim is also good. I would look into including all antioxidant vitamins too. Your list is great.

Helena73

Good to know. I have never taken 10,000 mg of C orally so I had no idea it caused diarrhea. I was worried the ascorbic acid might irritate your stomach.

I figure it might be good to start with 5 or 6 thousand and if you are still the same or worse after a week or more it might be worth it to go to 10,000.

Yeah have seen that curcumin is probably having a beneficial effect on inflamation. I could spit out a list of herbals and supplements that are probably helpful for covid but I don’t want to bore people. I feel like those three vitamins are the most important.

Bigz_Sarducci

The B vitamins are good as well.

Helena73

Thank you for the diarrhea tips! I mean that.

I have liposomal C but Ill look into ester.

Bigz_Sarducci

I have been a vitamin studier since my Father introduced me to a Dr Earl Mindell book. Ester help C absorb quicker.

SpecialtyPizza

The people are too stupid to listen. They hear you bring up hcq and they immediately dismiss it because of some bullshit study they heard about on cnn 7 months ago that has since been retracted or proven bullshit. If you show people the stats and try to get them to understand that theres a 99.999% survival rate they claim they are trying to protect the old folks who are susceptible.

Maroonsaint

I don’t give a fuck about what others say. I’m not gonna try to argue with a retard I’m gonna insist they try sucking my dick

Helena73

Well since I read all those bullshit studies and I know that they aren’t randomized and use propensity scoring to draw conclusions, (which isn’t that reliable) and also that they only studied HCQ in severe patients who are well past the point in their infection at which safe levels of HCQ are most likely to be effective,I am in a position to tear their studies apart.

The survival rate is not 99.999%. It is much lower. In my state, which is the hardest hit by covid basically in the world, 1 in 500 people have died of covid. In the state. Understand, that that is not out of all infected people, that is the proportion of all people in the state now dead. By the end of this winter that could be 1 in 200 or 300. That could be true of every state in a couple of years.

People in there 80s have maybe a 20% chance of dying from the infection at least and people in their 70s have about a 10% chance. That is bad.

That is why it is so important to get hydroxychloriquine to high risk patients as soon as they develop symptoms annd why high risk people should be getting prophylaxis.

Everyone here knows someone who died of covid. I know 5 people who died of it. A neighbor just died 2 weeks ago of it.

The case fatality rate of covid is not comparable to the fatality rate of flu because we don’t know about 99% of the flu cases that occur— no one gets tested for the flu. Half the country has been tested for covid and trace amounts of virus are counted as a case. Therefore comparing flu deaths/flu cases to covid deaths/covid cases is not useful.

BearDolphin1488

Of course.. the cum eating slut believes in the holocaugh.. the woman here liring and telling men to be afraid of the flu/cold has eaten cum. Disgusting

Helena73

You literally fuck dolphins so this is a pretty smug take considering.

NiggerJusticeWarrior

Lmao dude of course old people die. You will get old and die too. 1 in 500? Oh no not a 99.8% survival rate. IT'S THE PLAGUE

Helena73

Thats not the survival rate. That is the number of people who have died of it so far in my state. Perhaps 1/10 of the state population has had it so far? Maybe 1/20 have actually gotten sick?

This is the equivalent of randomly shooting 1 out of every 30 seniors once a year for several years.

Fuck old people, get rid of them

I hear this all the time from people on voat claiming to be non-degenerate, conservative and pro-white.

Evolved societies honor and care for their elderly. There are societies that do not- perhaps one of them would suit you better.

NiggerJusticeWarrior

I never said fuck old people or get rid of them. Learn to read you dumb cunt

Helena73

Yeah you did. You said you didn’t care if they were killed by this virus because that’s what old people do— they die.

Listen zoomer, you won’t be allowed to vote, and this is why. You don’t understand anything about life and are still mentally a child.

NiggerJusticeWarrior

No I didn't you fucking retard. I stated a fact of life, that old people die. There are no zoomers on this site you dumb bitch

Helena73

Yeah you did. Your response to old people are dying needlessly, prematurely by 10 or 15 years in many cases, is who cares? Old people die, what difference if they are cheated out of a decade of life? The implication was clear, fuck old people . If it was little zoomers like you dying, like during the spanish flu, it would be: why oh why doesn’t society shut down for me? Why are boomers so hardened to my suffering?

Hey Im 27, thats a big difference from 23. Im not at zoomer. I’m not, I’m not!

Pedantic distinction. You’re under 30. You’re a zoomer. If Im a boomer in my mid 40s, you may as well be a zoomer. Just own it and stop being a fucking bitch about it.

If you’re going to brag about your indifference to old people dying prematurely because who the fuck cares if they died before they needed to then just admit it and stop backpedalling. It’s really what you think, isn’t it?

I personally think you’re a degenerate for hating the elders of your own people, white seniors, but you’re the one that has to look at yourself in the mirror.

I also know with 100% confidence that you will change your mind on this sort of shit by age 40. Tick tick.

NiggerJusticeWarrior

Quote the part where I said that you illiterate hag. When did I ever call you a boomer? Stop arguing with the voices in your head and try reading my posts.

Helena73

Why should I suddenly be concerned about people at the end of their life expectancy facing their mortality like they always have?

Oops ! right there. ^^^ right fuckin’ there. Qed

Sounds like you need to make peace with the concept of death if you think it's something to be scared of at the age of 70.

Pretty philosophical for a person in their 20s! Haha! Im sure when the time comes you’ll nobly report to the soylent factory without a fight. How old are you exactly by the way?

GrizzlyDark

Stupid woman... soon your vote goes away and this is why

Helena73

Statistically, you are not likely to be smarter than me. But if you present an actual argument maybe we could find out? :)

grendelbiter

Nobody I know knows someone who died of Covid or even had it. One guy I know who works at the hospital knows 3 patients in the hospital who supposedly have it. I know one person who (supposedly) had it and they survived. I say supposedly because we all know the tests are crap. You might know 5 people who died WITH covid not of it. You swallowed the propaganda pill.

Helena73

Maybe thats because you live in a state where there weren’t many covid cases?

Many states had only around 1 in 5000 people die of covid. My state has had 1 in 500 people die of covid. We have a very high population density. Everyone, everyone here know someone who died of it. Many middleaged people have had a parent or aunt or uncle die of it.

My neighbor died of it a couple weeks ago. He was relatively healthy for mid-seventies. Active. He was not on death’s door. He could have live 10 or 15 years barring cancer. He got flu symptoms and was dead in 2 weeks. He died of covid.

You want to believe this is all a scam because communists have exploited it and lied about many aspects of the epidemic. But it is real. It is a very nasty virus and it is killing hundreds of thousands of older americans who could have expected many more years of life if it weren’t for this virus.

My state is New Jersey. Go to worldometer and compare your state’s deaths per million with mine. Perhaps this accounts for our different anecdotal experiences?

grendelbiter

How do you know they didn't die of a regular flu? I've had the flu very bad 2 years ago and I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say I was fighting for my life for a couple of hours. The regular flu kills a lot of people and has EXACTLY the same symptoms as covid. Bonus is it'll always exist so they can take away our rights indefinitely. And you seriously believe those numbers? It's proven the test are bullshit, taking the test is just like spinning the wheel. But you know that, right? You've been around here. So my only conclusion is that you're a shill.

norse

Shill.

Helena73

Gay. Im refering to my state, which has had more covid deaths than any other state per capita. Or any other country.

Floodthewestcoast

What shithole poo country do you live in?

beefartist

Right? Everyone knows 5 people BULLSHIT. She should stop hanging around whatever crack dens or old folks homes she is patronizing

Helena73

The fucking united states.

SerOdeon

C19study.com

Helena73

This is a great link, thank you.

happyfacemcgee

You can never “catch” a virus — https://www.bitchute.com/video/sEWDBJeETWjg/

Educate yourself. Your post is completely incorrect because fundamentally you are wrong. There is NO virus going around killing people.

They ARE killing people with the procedures yes, the stage-3 ventilator protocols and the 11 different IV drugs ARE killing people, but it is not because they unleashed a virus on the population.

You’re stupid as fuck if you believe that. Extremely sad.

beefartist

Thank you!

Helena73

Never met a conspiracy you didn’t like eh?

happyfacemcgee

Dude you’re completely retarded.

SARS-cov2 has never been isolated from a human nor have any antibodies ever been found — https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/12/01/the-sars-cov-2-virus-was-never-proved-to-exist/

https://davidicke.com/2020/12/07/you-need-to-accept-that-you-have-been-scammed-on-a-monumental-scale-david-icke/

The “covid” symptoms people are feeling are due to EMF attacks on the population. This has been proven time and time again.

Where the hell have you been? 1 in 500 died of SARS-cov2.

We have 20% less deaths this year than last year for godsake. Johns Hopkins came out with that study recently.

What the fuck are you talking about?

beefartist

I am not sure it is ONLY EMF (or an attack per se)but even the amount of "background" EMF most people are exposed to can't be good. I think it is a WHOLE litany of factors making people weak and sickly (bad food, bad water, lack of nutrients, medicines, chem exposure etc.)

Helena73

Lol no. This is not correct.

cantaloupe6

Covid'ss been debunked /s