Kate2020

The next question should be if the test is accurate or inaccurate.

Glory_Beckons

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Full translation:

I will now, here, live, during my time to speak, perform a Corona test for you, dear ladies and gentlemen. So that you may see how worthless and misguided these mass testing measures truly are.

[cut]

I have brought with me here, a test I have taken directly from one of our [government] departments, which is currently being used to administer mass testing throughout the department. As well as, dear ladies and gentlemen, I've also brought the "patient" -- namely some run of the mill Cola.

[swabs coke]

And I will now perform the test, by taking some of that Cola and applying it to the mass test, which you, too, would be using.

[unintelligible din from part of the audience]

Yes, dear ladies and gentlemen, quite right, it is a bunch of bullshit. This test here is. Which you all have bought with tax money, far more tax money than necessary, in order to maintain the narrative(?) [I can't quite make this word out, but it's something to this effect]. And how worthless this test is, we will all see at the end of my speech, dear ladies and gentlemen. You all speak [of] bullshit; but it's the people that have to pay for it.

[holds up test]

And, in the mean time, the test has already produced the result of your squandering of tax money. And I have to inform you, Mr. President, I believe we have a problem now, because we now have a positive Corona test result here in Parliament. Namely this Cola has returned positive for Corona. Not sure what you're going to want to do about that now.

[holds up again]

But, dear ladies and gentlemen, for these kind of things you have thrown tens of millions of Euros in tax money out the window. Instead of providing for real protective measures, aimed at nursing homes and the elderly. Instead of, finally, investing money into our hospitals and to keep our healthcare budget from running out.

Dear ladies and gentlemen of the government, you have completely squandered the trust [of the people], and you have demonstrated that you are not capable of navigating our country through this crisis, but instead drive us towards failure. This test alone reveals how laughable your measures and your politics have been become. And the Austrian tax payer is forced to fund it.

If you had even some semblance of a backbone, dear ladies and gentlemen, then you would all collectively resign.

nwguy

the covids are the most common virus on the planet. its everywhere.

the swab tests for all 5 versions swin bird horse 19 whatever

Ifyouonlyknewhowbad

Clarification - this is a normie argument and is rhetoric. I’m sure someone else will comment with the details why the acidity in coke would cause a false positive and this should be expected. But as a rhetorical device when your audience is normies - that’s where this story is useful.

Glory_Beckons

If a test returns positive because something is acidic, then it is a test for acidity.

There are plenty of reasons human saliva or mucus can be acidic. For example, if you just drank some Cola. Is that what this is supposed to test for?

Ifyouonlyknewhowbad

Without fail someone jumps on the least important part of what I said. That wasn’t my point and I’m editing my post to remove it.

Glory_Beckons

Clarification - this is a normie argument and is rhetoric. I’m sure someone else will comment with the details why the acidity in coke would cause a false positive and this should be expected. But as a rhetorical device when your audience is normies - that’s where this story is useful.

Correct me where I am wrong: Your argument is that the acidity of the Coke caused a false positive, and that this should be expected, and therefore that this argument is just rhetoric.

I don't really see any other way to read that. And if my reading is correct, then the acidity of the Coke and subsequent expectation of a false positive is the central premise upon which your entire argument rests.

So how am I "jumping on the least important part"?

All your edit has done is hide the reasoning behind why a false positive ought to be expected. Which leaves only a baseless assertion that this is "unscientific" "rhetoric" and a "false positive is to be expected" for some unspecified reason that you have "already seen elsewhere".

Ifyouonlyknewhowbad

Let me dumb it down for you. I’ll rephrase:

I’ve seen this convincingly explained as poor science, but it’s still a good argument if used as rhetoric for normies.

You’re exactly the kind of autist who needs to read up on rhetoric vs dialectic. Go reread the definition of pedantic a few times while you’re at it.

Glory_Beckons

I’ve seen this convincingly explained as poor science, but it’s still a good argument if used as rhetoric for normies.

Yes, you were convinced by arguments revolving around Cola being acidic and therefore false positives to be expected. And I pointed out why it was foolish to be convinced by such arguments. Which removed all basis for your conclusions. Instead of acknowledging this, and reevaluating your conclusions, you chose to hide the premise and pretend your now baseless conclusions are still sound. It appears you think yourself clever for that.

You’re exactly the kind of autist who needs to read up on rhetoric vs dialectic. Go reread the definition of pedantic a few times while you’re at it.

The irony of this is quite entertaining. Bravo.

Or is it brava? I think it must be, judging by how personally you're taking someone politely pointing out that you are wrong about something.

Ifyouonlyknewhowbad

There I’ve edited again are you happy now you fucking trog? If not you want to rewrite to get my actual point across in a way you’re happy with since this is how you choose to spend your time? Taking tedious issue with people you pretend to be fighting alongside?

Glory_Beckons

All I did was point out that the coke being acidic isn't really a good justification for the test returning a false positive.

I have no idea why you're so upset about this. I certainly wasn't expecting you to edit your comment or try to rewrite it.

Ifyouonlyknewhowbad

I was upset because I almost didn’t include the acidity part to begin with because I knew someone was going to do this. I left it in to provide better context but it was clearly a mistake. I looked at your comment history and don’t think you’re actually a kike, but derailing someone by harping on something that wasn’t their point is a classic pilpul tactic when done intentionally, so it tends to piss people off.

Ifyouonlyknewhowbad

You a kike or something? That’s clearly nothing to do with my point.

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