PSA: A friendly shout-out to all you conspirators who just got here from reddit ( conspiracy )

submitted by Gamerdog6482

Howdy fellow formerredditconspirators!

I'm sure most of you are here either because of the SLC thing or some other relevant mishap on Reddit. Well I myself have been here for almost two weeks so let me tell you why Voat is that much better than Reddit.

NOTE: If you aren't a newbie to voat most of this is old news to you, so you can probably skip it.

  • Most of you have probably already noticed that you can't upvoat (yes it's pronounced "vote", not "voh-at") things too often yet. This was specifically done by the voat administrators to prevent external voat brigading. Unlike Reddit's captha though it's site-wide and not tied to a specific subvoat.

  • This is important: nothing is censored here . Reddit banned the SLC stuff for bullshit reasons, but voat doesn't do that. This is mostly because one of Voat's official non-censorship policy. There isn't really anything preventing subvoat moderators from removing stuff, but top-level admins probably won't even remove any post.

  • Voat listens to you. Surprisingly so. The community manager/offical God of Voat or whatever is Atko (random shoutout: you can use /u/ or @ to summon users) and he is very good at listening to and becoming involved in the communities his site hosts. If you have a problem that concerns the site, he'll probably help you.

  • Voat is public. Very much so. Remember the backlash when Reddit got rid of the vote identifiers in RES? Built in to Voat (hence the 0|0 next to every comment). Hell there's even anonymous subvoats, like /v/anon , where voting is disabled so you can't brigade even if you wanted to. So secret stuff like r/worldnews 's typical "delete then repost" tactic of censorship probably wouldn't happen here at voat. And we can always coup bad mods if we want to.

And last but not least:

  • Voat is small. Extremely so. The site is like two years old now or something but is still smaller as a whole than some of the bigger subreddits. There's no real chance of "mob opinions" here, nor are there any populist trends simply because there just isn't the population to support that. Throw in the fact that you can't downvoat until you have a 100 comment IKR and you end up with a totally open forum - something Reddit is not.

TLDR: Voat is everything you wanted Reddit to be and also everything Reddit didn't want Reddit to be. It isn't a reddit copy, it's a reddit improvement in every aspect. On r/conspiricy , the mods/admins were our enemies. Here, they're our coposters, covoaters, and (usually) our friends.

owie

I found it thru the srs, metacancer thing. But I payed attention thru the whole gamergate censorship debacle. Same sjw's responsible for both. Found 8 chan thru moot being a sjw cuck.

Nice to see an alternative to le reddit too.

Conspiracies do happen behind closed doors, if this goes on at reddit. Imagine the duplicity and narrative shaping that goes on out there.

Fart_McFart_Fart

Didn't this place use to be called whoaverse?

Gamerdog6482

Many months ago, yes.

Fart_McFart_Fart

Ah, OK. I was wondering why I already had an account here and have had one for almost a year. I couldn't remember signing up to a Voat.Co but then I remembered about whoaverse. Glad to see this site is still kicking, and seemingly kicking stronger.

Frogstarius

Happy to join this voat community, I'm sick of all the shortcomings of reddit.

Gamerdog6482

Yeah most of the mods are the same, but only one of them has even been active in the past three months. We're planning a removal of those mods, I believe, and /u/PrivateJoker is the only one staying.

obnoxious_commenter

This board is getting more traffic due to the SLC shenanigans on reddit. With the increase in traffic, we will be needing mods make sure content is legit and not just clickbait.

Welcome!

totorox

>nothing is censored here.

False. Deleting "off-topic" and "spam" posts is censorship. "Off-topic" and "spam" are subjective notions that are always abused by censors (even their qualifier is censored, you call them "moderators").

The only way to keep a site as censorship free as possible is to strictly limit censorship to illegal content. Anything else is welcome if you want free speech, because anything can be creative and will be used creatively.

I'm not seeing any obvious link on this site to a declaration post by the admin team, a mission statement. In the new logo sticky I picked up on the OP relishing the fact that the users cant decide what logo goes. I already concluded this site is and will be shit because its admins are jerkoffs (people who never cared about free speech in the first place, they just want their site and fame and puny shitty power over users).

istalkezwhoa

Great thing so many are arriving :D

SEC-Shill

Not sure if I'll be staying, but I need somewhere to work since reddit shut us down. Thanks for at least giving us a medium.

totorox

still smaller as a whole than some of the nigger subreddits

Gamerdog6482

what

xanaxinator

Xanaxinator here. I am very, very happy that my friends have joined me--and that I have joined them! Count on me to be a regular contributor as always.

Censorship on Reddit is nothing new but...when a mod over at /r/consp was deriding people (including me) for stating HISTORICAL FACT...well, I had just about had enough. I see that this person is a mod here, sadly enough. Oh well, nobody said that Voat will be free of shills and those who wish to stifle "inconvenient historical facts." We simply need to "school" them with massive downvotes...just like on Reddit. Hopefully these "rogue mods"--who are all for censoring the truth--cannot do anything here except attempt their censorship and get downvoated (is that a term?) all to hell for doing so as always.

What we need is an Android/iPhone app for Voat. Any developers out there that want to take on the challenge? If so, I will most assuredly purchase it--either from the Play Store or direct from you.

SOOO happy to be here! Hope that all of my friends here are doing great.

Gamerdog6482

I believe the admins have said that they are in contact with an Android developer and that an app is underway. There's a voat API so it probably won't take that long.

xanaxinator

Thank you! That is utterly great news!

My hope is that we can all come here and leave the shills/JIDF behind. But, sadly, I don't think that's the case. I already see some VERY "censorship friendly" mods on this SR.

000cccpcharm

why bother with news, use it to change the world and create history

000cccpcharm

If you want, give me three months and I'll have you "mobbed" ...I mean the agents are already here...if your here, so are they

xanaxinator

Of course they're here...but for them to be anywhere NEAR as effective it's going to take time.

I took my blocklist from Reddit and exported it...all I have to do it crank out a Chrome extension in the next few days and I'll have a partially-functioning VES that will, at least, leave my blocks and labels intact (I have JIDF agents labeled).

istalkezwhoa

please share.

xanaxinator

I cannot do this. My "list" may be entirely wrong and I'm not about to ruin anybody's name. That's my list with MY opinions on is. I'm sorry man.

If you'd like a crack at the Chrome extension...well, the fucking IRS just pushed that back a few days...but of course I'll share once I can (IF I can) get it done! As long as you beta it for me, and promise to give me criticism.

sinner

Thanks. I'll give this a try. Been wanting something different from reddit due to an asshole admin.

Proper

I'm pretty interested to see where this site goes in the future. I wonder how your last point might change if this site picks up steam and the population grows.

Gamerdog6482

Well, that's definitely a possibility and one we should be aware of, but Voat is built from the ground up to prevent that kind of stuff from happening. I mean I suppose it's kind of inevitable if Reddit collapses, but Voat's trying its hardest to not become reddit. Take downvoating, for example. You can't downvoat someone until you have 100 IKP. You don't automatically upvoat your own comments like you do on reddit, so that basically translates to having to have people upvoat your comments one hundred times. It would look kinda suspicious if a corporation tried to astroturf voat by mass upvoating their shill accounts - something that would either take months to accompolish or look very very strange.

Proper

That is going to be huge I think. I wonder if individual subverses can increase the number upvoates you need before you can voat in their subverse.

We all saw the lengths that people would go to in order to manipulate votes, discussions, and perceptions on reddit. When I signed up I noticed this place already has a conspiratard subverse. I can definately see these people upvoating each other, with alt accounts too, just to manipulate everything again.

I'm optimistic too, I just think it's going to take a bit of vigilance and hard work.

aleeum

Thanks for the welcome. I like this place. I hope I can only add to it's awesomeness.