What if the "Fat Acceptance movement" is really a front created by the Fast food and Soda Companies to deamonize anyone living a healthy lifestyle? ( conspiracy )

submitted by Javik2186

Just curious about it. More I think about it the large the conspiracy grows. What is your thoughts on this?

EDIT: Kudos to DeathStalker and Pitenius for sharing good information to an intelligent conspiracy question.

Bfwilley

This is a farce, if there was conspiracy involving the Fat Acceptance movement it would have been Super Sized and come with a side of Ranch dressing and extra Bacon,,,,,Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm Bacon.

CredAndBercuses

This really is the lazy way of conspiring. It's like, "what have others done for us already without knowing, that we can bend to our will with minimal effort?"

iSen

i remember watching this and thinking....hey! weight a minute....

http://fedupmovie.com/#/page/home

Moonbat

It's not.

hels

Your post has no direction. It says fat people haven't lost logic and reason and then you provide fat excuses for getting fatter.

Logic and reason means they know they are fat and ugly and start changing their lifestyle.

Super-Script

The fat hate movement is a DARPA psychology project started only for a couple of years ago. Your participating is being monitored and cross referenced with tracking cookies.

404_SLEEP_NOT_FOUND

Well it's definitely newspeak. The question is first, is it funded and promoted? Probably. These types of things don't just spur up randomly, especially not from fat/lazy people.

Also, whether or not it was initiated by corporations, it certainly benefits them. This is why /r/fatpeoplehate was banned from reddit way before /r/coontown . /r/fatpeoplehate was making fun of the idea of going to McDonald's, whereas /r/coontown was talking about how many niggers they would like to hang.

Nahfuckreddit

"Go eat a cheeseburger, you annuhreksic!!!1" -Ronald McDonald

mondogecko

It's a great way to save the govt. money. Tax the snacks, and when tubby doesn't live to retirement age pocket their social security contribitions. It's touted that the health care costs are exhorbitant, but that money goes to healthcare, not to a working class person, so in a way spiking the bmi of a person is a method of taking that citizen's social security money and shoveling it into the medical/industrial complex.

iDontShift

plate sizes went from 7" to 9" after study found people like to 'fill the plate' (happened in the 70s)

so yes this is exactly it. more money, not just fastfood, but medical, special services/appliances needed.

the fat acceptance is all about that.

TyrellCorp

Coca cola wants a word with you.

ScottRockview

Wasn't there a story here a couple of days ago about Coke paying scientists to claim that drinking Coke does not cause weight gain?

CredAndBercuses

I used to drink way too much of that shit. I also used to weigh about 50 more pounds. Just correlation?

SilentMaster

What do you mean what if?

Piranha

I don't get the 'deamonize anyone living a healthy lifestyle' part of the title. Just because some people accept fat people doesn't mean they somehow attack people who are living a more healthy lifestyle. I never heard anyone criticize somebody because he was staying fit. Quite the contrary actually; they're usually envious or impressed.

Do the FPH users feel attacked because of their lifestyle? I always had the impression they are being censored because they openly criticize fat people.

code_guerilla

When you are fit you generally have people that make comments about what you eat, or you are so skinny, or telling you to go eat a burger. Fat people get jealous that others maintain their bodies and some do attempt to bring fit people down so they feel better. I have experienced it myself. My favorite thing to tell them is that I eat around 3000 calories a day, the difference is I use all of it.

Piranha

I'm Vegetarian. Of course people make comments about what I eat, all the time, without me bringing it up. I never feel attacked though, because nobody viciously has told me I should eat unhealthy food or even meat, ever.
It's not what everybody does so people comment on the unusual thing. Maybe in the US being fat has become the norm (I'm not from the US) and thus comments about being skinny occur more often. Calling that 'demonize' however is a bit... hyperbole?

code_guerilla

The US is 70% overweight or obese, so people at a healthy weight are a definitely a minority. Some people will get mad at fit people, especially people who were fat and lost the weight. I have had people get upset because someone asked me how I lost the weight and I explained it.
Many people like to cling to the idea that being fat is outside of their control, that their genetics or medical conditions somehow make them fat. When they are shown the falsehood of this belief they get angry.
Are fit people demonized, no not necessarily. However there are constantly stated opinions that in order to be fit we must be sacrificing some other part of our lives. Fit people are commonly referred to as shallow, or insinuations are made that we must be less intelligent or less caring people.
There is definitely some jealousy present that gets expressed in vindictive ways. It could be at some point in the future that being a healthy weight is seen as a negative, I hope not though.

JustBeingTruthful

I said "Bingo" to myself as soon as I read your title.

It honestly makes so much sense. It also plays in nicely with the post a week ago stating the the government spent $800,000 trying to figure out how to get overweight women dates.

oswald_spengler

The chick who started it is called linda bacon. BACON FOR FS. Conspiracy confirmed

SaneGoatiSwear

if there were a conspiracy, it'd be that the diet industry is secretly run by a cabal of shitlords in disguise! and the fat acceptance movement is but some reverse psychology to utilize the public to turn itself around (in terms of weight.)

criminalmacabre

Branded is a fiction movie that tells exactly that, an evil marketer doing an experiment in emerging economies to make fat beautiful so fast food is loved again.

Deathstalker

There was a post about this a while back. I work in the food manufacturing so I shared a bit of info.

The fatter a person is, the more they crave fat and sugar as opposed to flavor variety. Profits are much higher when eating trends are stable. The Adkins diet cost the industry millions. Lines were shut down and companies went out of business. What's the solution? Get everyone to be fat, that way eating trends are more predictable. Very few corporations control most of the food so I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were funding fat acceptance.

I've also noticed some articles where click bait sites write about products.

https://archive.is/ddH9d

https://archive.is/CBtgm

https://archive.is/NBTXm

This is probably just some hailcorporate style astroturf marketing but it's not far from astroturfing how people feel about food or it's potential effects.

Javik2186

Thank you for this valued information. I always loved watching Morgan Spurlock's "Supersize Me." It was well done as well, he doved into the part on how these few corporations, including McDonalds controlled their brands and their style of marketing to target children and adults alike.

djsumdog

Sugar yes, fat no. That was the point of Adkins, and Keto and every other low carb diet. It's amazing how much healthier you are by cutting out all bread, pasta, soda and candy. Bread is horrible for you in the amounts we eat today.

The industry was losing tons of money over the Adkins crave in the early 2000s. Sugar sales were falling. So what happened...Harpers published an article saying Adkins died of his own diet. It was false. (He slipped on some ice in a snow storm and cracked his skill open). They rededicated it the next issue, but the damage was done.

If you want to be healthy, you seriously should stop worrying about fat. It doesn't actually cause you to be fat. Low-carb, ignore-fat diets are extremely healthy. Look at /v/keto for more info.

necron30

He's probably right about the stability and predictability of fat people craving both carbs and fats. With a preponderance of simple carbs and fats in the diet, you'll experience the insulin spike/crash effect of the beetus while having enough mid-crash blood sugar from the fat to stay alert enough to think "Gawd I want some Reese's Pieces" and continue the updowns until you eat a pound of pasta and cheese sauce for dinner.

code_guerilla

Complex carbs are also not evil in and of themselves. They are a great energy source. Sugar is pretty much worthless however. I eat a 40/30/30 carb/protein/fat split for maintenance and bulking. When I cut I do remove some carbs from my diet, but that is so I can get enough protein in a days worth of restricted calories.
You don't have to go full keto to lose weight. Mainly just eat less and move more.

pitenius

You explained a lot... and documented the conspiracy element! Proud to read you!

pitenius

I think fat is often a result of having lost logic and reason about how (and what) to eat. Part of the problem is that they believe what they're "told" by ads, etc.

lawofchaos

Could someone tell me what the 'fat acceptance movement' is and where I will see signs of it spreading like such wildfire as people claim?

code_guerilla

tumblr. search for fat acceptance, body positivity, thick thighs, tummy tuesday, curvy women, fatspo etc.

lawofchaos

Number of people who have signed the HAES Pledge: 9048

ItsSwiftty023

they wont win.

Deathstalker

As if they haven't already...

ximian

Given that they are already paying scientists to muddle the sodas are bad for health issue. I wouldnt be surprised if they plant people at the grass root levels. besides, you get a willing audience - people who're fat and suddenly they get to be beautiful instead of slogging their butt off to lose those extra pounds (or hear about bad news that extra pounds are really bad for you)!

Indiana_Jones

Well, it doesn't rally work. If you are overweight you're risking your health. That is a fact and every biologist or scientist can prove that to you. Unless they paid them to say otherwise. If you have 50 pounds too much fat in your system, you're not perfectly healthy. If you are even heavier you have a shorter lifespan.

"Fat Acceptance" is basically "Sickness Acceptance". But this is in many cases - I'd say in MOSt cases - an avoidable sickness.

Scotcheggs

I've thought it was a way for the controlling elite to have more control over society. The divide and conquer strategy. If society is dumbed down, not producing offspring, made be be fat and sedentary etc then it is far easier to control and dominate. Big corporations are mostly controlled by the same nepotistic tribe so OP theory is probably just one aspect of it.

Lobotomy

I doubt that divide and conquer and the Zionists are to blame for everything. This seems more like simple corporatism. Accept the fat so Dove soap and the food industry have something to sell.

Not that I don't agree with you a bit, but I'm going to go on a bit of a rant:

Lot of the people in this sub are serious tinfoil hatters, and I mean, I'll listen to anything, but EVERYTHING is the the fault of the Jews or the Zionists or the military industrial complex to these crazies. Like I get it, it's something to look out for, but it's not the answer to every problem.

Scotcheggs

I used to think the same way but everything is becoming much more transparent lately. It really is as bad as people are thinking.

EndDrugAndOtherWars

Well they certainly don't want people wondering what's in their food...

pitenius

Isn't already the case, though? There's a real problem with capitalism/marketing and how its logical extension can change your life. If you've ever lived around a fattie, you've probably watched them try to diet. One of the first steps of "being serious" about dieting is -- buying a metric shit-ton of "diet food". And a load of the diet "advice" consists of shit like "you can eat as much celery as you want". Really. I once tried to eat all the recommended daily nutrients from raw foods, and the huge masses of kale and carrots I was eating became more than I wanted to eat. I've never seen a fattie try to diet like trying to kick smack: there's nothing in this apartment except plain corn flakes and soy milk and I'm not leaving for four days. I think it would work better than anything the diet industry invents. I really don't blame the fatties for embracing fat acceptance.

The alternative is to question everything and be marginally paranoid. That gets you laughed at quickly. I think a lot of modern culture has tried to figure out ways to manipulate the social contract. When someone talks, we are inclined to listen out of respect and courtesy. Too bad so many public conversations quickly shift to "accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal savior." How can fatties find decent information, when everyone who says they have an answer has shit to sell? It was only a matter of time before they just broke down and accepted that 15 pounds over some BMI was the best they could do... then 25... then 35. Where's the line in fat?

If you'd like, there's a history of FAM. It seems to date back to 1969 -- and the first place to use BBW was connected with the launch of a "fashion" magazine -- clearly moving product. Corporate sponsorshit is rampant. If you'd like, I'm sure you could find corporate sponsorshit of Lard Parties.

Edit to add: Corporate balked. Fatties are bad for business.

NAAFA (National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance) recently entered into an agreement with a public relations firm to seek corporate sponsorship for NAAFA’s annual convention and on-going programs. Sadly, its efforts were fruitless and, in most cases, the corporations indicated their objection, not to the mission, but to our organization’s name. This firm has recommended swift action to change the name of NAAFA.

Our mission is EQUALITY AT EVERY SIZE.

They've taken money for things like Shape Up America but corporate hates lardbodies.

The radical element changed the name to Fatties United . Honestly, that kinda wins my support.

CredAndBercuses

I've never seen a fattie try to diet like trying to kick smack: there's nothing in this apartment except plain corn flakes and soy milk and I'm not leaving for four days.

Really good point. And neither have I - in fact, what usually happens is they leave to buy take-out or fast food instead, even if they have somewhat more with which to cook than corn flakes and soy milk.