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I'm concerned with all the videos from the shooters perspective being cut off shortly after the shots were fired. I've heard talk that the shooter dropped his phone or maybe that his phone was a "flip-phone" and that the video was prematurely ended at that point. One of the videos from the shooters perspective, that's a bit longer than the other videos, continues on a few more seconds from the "drop point" in which you can still hear the audio indicating that the phone could not have been closed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x_HruVcI4w

toobaditworks

Uh, because he got shot almost point blank in the head? Kinda hard to keep videotaping when you are dead.

Are you seriously that stupid?

@BuddyLeeDontPlayNSt

No I'm not that stupid. I was taking about the shooter who filmed his crime. Now ask yourself the question you asked me.

CryptoAnarchist

Looks staged.

Pigbristle

Ask yourself this, if it was staged to look like a real murder, why the hell would they film her running away?

CryptoAnarchist

Easier than having her realistically look like she just got shot.

deathcomesilent

Unless a round gets you in a load-baring bone, or in the central nervous system (brain/spine) you can go minutes before the shock wears off, and you notice you've been shot.

Adrenaline is one hell of a drug.

DecimateTheWeak

What nobody seems to be mentioning is how none of them noticed him standing within 4 feet and pointing a gun. He was not a small man. This was also at close to 7am. How did he know where they would be at that time? The location of this interview from what I understand is enormous in terms of acres. Which leads me to ask, out of all the entrances to this place, how did he know exactly where to find them? Unless he had stalked them very early in the morning and followed them? Also did nobody find it strange that he approached them, pointed the gun, then took a step back as if he had entered too early? Alot of websites pulled the video because it was graphic but I'm sure you all have seen actual graphic content. The screams were the only thing I could see as graphic. Not saying that it wasn't real but there seems to be a fishy smell.

TREDDITFIRST

Muzzle flash?

Emperor_Norton

Yes, yes it does.

LordingtheVoid

seriously horrible footage, i would kill myself for that quality as well.

on a real note, my problem with this is that you only really hear gun shots and screaming. this guy even had 2 cameras to get a decent shot of anyone actually dying. people carrying guns wouldnt have solved the issue here but maybe if they were not already living in a fantasy world they would have noticed in the real world a "disgruntled employee" . if this was the case then message here should be "don't make fun of people. they might kill you." if you act like a good person what do you have to fear? and yet following this "example" of violence we have the white house suggesting measures that can make law abiding citizens safe.

they wont take our guns, they want us to give it to them.

3 guys 1 hammer for example is a truly sickening video, but im not saying that was faked by any body. they didnt cut scenes right before they smashed that poor guys face in.

edit: forgot to mention all these actors deserve all those silly movie trophies and awards

BuddyLeeDontPlayNSt

This isn't Call of Duty where blood spatters after each hit.

This is a terrible thread.

Hipsterrr

She took like 2 shots and started running. I think this chap has terrible aim or she had a crazy adrenaline boost.

BigSmeez

I have been shot before, at about the same distance. But, my shot was with a .22lr rifle. Blood did not immediately start pouring out, but a lot eventually did (like a minute later.) I did not have a crazy adrenaline rush, but my gunman wasn't actively trying to kill me, he was just a negligent dumbass. I think that there is definitely something fishy about this situation, I'm just not 100% sure she isn't actually being shot. I'd love to see what some of the video wizards can deduce from the video.

BuddyLeeDontPlayNSt

Personally if I had just gotten shot twice I'd have a crazy adrenaline boost.

At the end of the day, two innocent people are dead. That is a fact. I'm from 25 minutes south of where this happened and it has reverberated throughout the entire New River Valley. I have friends who knew these people on a day to day basis. People who hung out with these people. They are dead as dead can be. Their is absolutely no conspiracy here. To even say that this is a "Jewish control" conspiracy is absolutely ignorant and crazy as shit.

This type of post is what gives conspiracy theorists a bad name.

Sorry if I sound like a SJW, I assure you I am not, but this is an absolutely asinine post from start to finish.

catova

I was hoping this would not appear on conspiracy. I also live close to were this occurred and I can confirm Franklin, Bedford, Roanoke, Botetourt counties all had school lock downs with police patrols. A friend mentioned he watched it during the live broadcast. Also overheard police chatter on broadcastify regarding "bol" for the shooters car. This is just a horrific tragedy and nothing else.

BuddyLeeDontPlayNSt

Radford City, Montgomery, and Pulaski counties were also on lockdown.

The people who believe this shit are nothing but delusional nutcases.

Drenki

Went through frame by frame. His aim is off for first shot (could only have grazed her left hip) and second shot could only have hit her arms (left arm is holding mic and she brings up the right one right before she's the second shot). After that there's not enough info to tell.

Pepper-theDoctor

Im all about conspiracies but this one is silly. For starters, people can sometimes look like that when they get shot. The only ways shed just drop like a video game is if bone structure or nervous system was destroyed or a heart shot wrecked her blood pressure and she lost consciousness.

Also, lets pretend it is a conspiracy. The shooter is an idiot and a screwup. If there was a conspiracy, regardless of motive, you would not want that weak link being directly connected to a faked shooting. You give him a real gun and write off the cost of innocent lives.

zeus250bc

No it doesn't. However, you must understand, real world gunshots do NOT resemble movies or Call of Duty. Gunshots in most cases in fleshy areas do not produce instant blood.

FearActual

I've seen shootings in person. At this range the bullets should have punched right through her. Unless he was using a .22 which he was not. I see no evidence a bullet even struck her and I analyzed the gunman's video and the cameraman's video frame by frame..

itshappening-

Also have to take into account the differences in rounds, FMJ and HP react very differently, additionally the grain. For instance even a .22lr HP could have the potential to go through an individual of her size if it didn't hit bone.

The video freeze framed, although slightly hard to see on the 2nd shot, shows a shot to the soft tissue area on the lower left side of her abdomen, didn't look like the path of any organs but could of ruptured the intestine. Second shot appears to hit an arm and the third shot may of struck an arm or missed.

Another thing that is off is the recoil, shot placement and grip. If he is an absolute moron though that could account for those.

toobaditworks

Do you have screenshots to back this up because I was looking for it and could find it. I don't have any video editing software either so if you could show what you're saying it would help.

itshappening-

Click the cog on the youtube video and change the playback speed to 0.25. If you need it slower, there are extensions for chrome and firefox that let you download videos, most videos players have a speed setting.

As a rule, I don't like to make public judgement's... just observations :).

zeus250bc

I too have reservations about the video. Especially after the father and so called fiancé got on TV and 1st and foremost were supporting gun control. And, both are Jewish. It is an unspoken truth that Jewish people are behind most gun control legislation in America. So, I would say I am keeping an open mind about it. But the lack of blood immediately after the shots fired is NOT evidence that it's fake.

FearActual

She only cringes at the sound of gun fire, it clearly scares her but she is not staggered or knocked down and can run away in her heels no problem. Next issue, a camera man trained to get all the action and evidence doesn't immediately turn the camera to see the assailant is hard to believe. Just saying, this shit stinks.

BuddyLeeDontPlayNSt

Uh, because he got shot almost point blank in the head? Kinda hard to keep videotaping when you are dead.

Are you seriously that stupid?

toobaditworks

Also these were all TV reporters and we know they can always be trusted.

And why is his video so short. You would think he would have filmed more.

SumerBreeze

At first glance, he is a piss poor aim. On second, those seem like blanks.

deathcomesilent

The gun seems to have the recoil of a real load, blanks cause a gun to behave differently. The guy's wrist buckles after the first shot because he was holding the gun like an idiot (probably because he was trying to film). The second and third shots weren't even on camera (I'd guess because his first shot missed, and he decided to try aiming) Not to say it couldn't be faked, but this is what a shooting looks like.

Its probably worth noting, bullets don't even move clothing at close range, they just go right though everything until they stop, or hit something that shatters instead of splitting open. It's a great fake, if its a fake at all.

DJexs

I agree it is incredibly hard to tell with the low quality video because it looks very real and somewhat unreal at the same time. To bad the video is shotty quality, must of been using a flip phone lol.