glugglug

So what does people planting thermite and explosives in elevator shafts look like from a satellite? Doesn't make much sense.

xanaxinator

I think Putin is full of shit.

All a sat image could show (after the fact) would be the EXTREMELY high temps under the rubble...which has already been noted, and was likely caused by the tons of thermite that was found in the pyroclastic dust.

0xD00D

People people people. 9/11 was not an "inside job". Sept.11, 2001 was a Saudi Royal Family job.

  • Methodology: To hire and train 15 of the 19 hijackers, have them do something terrible to the USA, and then pin the blame on Osama Bin Laden.

  • Motive: To bring the full force of the United States military against the Yemen wahabists.

  • Reason: Yemen wahabist terrorism network (led by Bin Laden) was the greatest threat to the Saudi monarchs.

Number of 9/11 hijackers from Afghanistan: 0

Number of 9/11 hijackers from Iraq: 0

Number of 9/11 hijackers from Yemen: 0

Number of blackboxes retrieved from the planes : 0

Number of 9/11 hijackers from Saudi Arabia : 15 (The remaining 4 were from Algeria, Egypt, and Jordan)

  • Evidence: Zacharias Moussawi reported to the world that Saudi princes were putting him up 5-star hotels while he was master-minding the Sept.11th attacks with 15 other Saudi men. This is not blogosphere spew. Mainstream outlets reported this, including Reuters and The Economist magazine.

LizardBreathe

If they really had something, they would not have waited this long to reveal it, unless they had something to do with it, which seems unlikely.

HeavyHebrew

Or "Hey, we don't call them enemy combatants anymore. Sure, we still treat them as non-people with no rights whatsoever, but we stopped calling them the term which you identify our evil actions with so it's all good now! Now enjoy freedom!"

HeavyHebrew

Think Pentagon

kD82zYupLH19

Neither the CIA nor the FSB cares about YOU or the TRUTH. After all, "You can't handle the Truth!" -- You are a pawn in a much larger game. So grab some popcorn and keep an open mind - this could be interesting, but, I will be surprised to see the full 'truth'.

Lt_Cmdr_Data

I'll believe it when I see it. He's made similar threats in the past and nothings come of it. One thing that makes me think he MAY have something is the recent "Putin has Autism" stories I've been seeing on MSM.

lincoln_loggers

You know, for the most part I completely agree with you. I think where our views differ is in where we place the blame. I may be wrong, and correct me if I am because I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I get the feeling you place the blame for the state of our government squarely on the shoulders of the government itself. I, on the other hand, place the blame entirely on the American people. Bear with me here as I'd like to make an analogy that hopefully makes my point:

For the 2014 midterm election, voter turnout was just under 37%. Think about the number for a second. If the New York Yankees had only 37% of their market watching games and only sold 37% of their seats during the season, how loyal could you expect the Yankees to be to New York? Not very loyal, I'd wager. In fact, I'd bet a few years like that and they'd leave New York and find themselves a city that was interested.

Unfortunately, politicians can't just up and leave just because voter turnout is woefully low. Rather, they align themselves with whoever they see actually cares. When you have the vast majority of the country too lazy to bother to even vote versus a couple corporations/Koch brothers putting in everything they got, it seems like an easy choice. You place your loyalty in whoever seems to be loyal to you.

Sure, it would be awesome to have politicians that work their asses off to support the citizens of our country. But when 40something percent of the country is adopting a "why bother" attitude, you can bet your ass that's the attitude you'll also see coming from your politicians.

Something needs to be done in our country to turn things around. That much we can definitely agree on. But, personally, I think the onus rests on us to actively participate, rather than sit at home and complain.

BTW, I'm from Oregon. We have a pretty great voter turnout each election cycle and a fairly strong group of young voters and I can honestly say I think this state is one of the best in the country in terms of politicians that are for the people.

Code_X

We had just over 93% voter turnout at the last election. Let me just say that voter turnout doesn't necessarily equal good choices. Or that the people who win keep their promises. (Yeah. I know. Who'd of thunk it...)

DanielKurlan

If there was something they would fucking release it, all bark.

And what could a satellite image do to reveal an 'inside job'?

Sinstrite

Russia threatened to do this awhile back, and nothing came of it. I won't be surprised if it's the same this time. When real hard evidence hits the floor that our government and politicians can't just sweep under the rug, then it's an actual thing worth paying attention to.

Empire_of_the_mind

that may be true in the US bubble but the rest of the world will go apeshit, and that will be impossible to ignore.

code

It's not going to be anything groundbreaking. It's Putin trying to play chess when he's actually playing tic-tac-toe. The real conspiracy is him ineffectually trying to sew seeds of doubt about the US government when he's facing his own crisis.

DanielKurlan

I thought voat would be different but its the same pointless cowardly downvoting that reddit suffers from.

HeavyHebrew

You do realize that when you post a comment it starts at zero?

DanielKurlan

I know that, he was on -1, look at his downvotes.

code

Welcome to red-... voat.

DanielKurlan

Its why I think downvotes should be public

Kim_Jong_Illuminati

Yea this downvote system is garbage without some kind of argument backing it up with the downvote. People should be forced to provide some kind of constructive feedback if they want to downvote. If you don't have a valid argument against the point being made then fuck off.

DanielKurlan

If you don't have a valid argument against the point being made then fuck off.

Couldn't agree more.

lincoln_loggers

but hopefully this will give those tin foil conspiracy theories a backbone to stand on.

I'm not sure if you are an American, but I feel like as an American wouldn't you rather the evidence show that what actually happened is what the government says happened? In other words, wouldn't you rather be able to trust the government, at least on this one issue, than to have confirmation that the government was maybe in on the killing of thousands of innocent lives?

Fart_McFart_Fart

As an American I don't care about my government. It obviously isn't here to help me or any other normal citizens, the government's sole mission anymore is to benefit themselves and their corporate interests only. I don't even care about it all anymore at this point. 9/11 is just one more irreversible stain on the greatness that once was America, even if it came out they didn't have anything to do with 9/11, (which honestly isn't very likely, they were at least aware an attack was coming and did nothing to stop it.), the actions taken by the government afterwards, (wars, patriot act,indefinite detention, etc) are just inexcusable. If you have any hope left in this country then you're being very naive.

000cccpcharm

banks controlling media in order to control the election in order to put themselves in charge of currecny creation is not a government....the thing that is called government is in fact a division of the central bank...

Gamerdog6482

Nothing. Nothing at all.

Anything that Russia might have had they'd have used a decade ago. And I highly doubt that unless their satellites found Dick Cheney smoking a cigar on the top of the North Tower as the planes hit that it'll even mean anything.

ccxvi

Additionally, Russia and the US weren't quite so hostile towards each other back then.

Empire_of_the_mind

I think you're offbase there. If you had a trump card that big you'd know how and when to play it. It's a nuclear bomb.