turdovski

Measles? It's barely dangerous, and only to people who are malnourished, and have no access to proper healthcare.

  • measles death rate to be almost 10 times higher among families whose median income was less than $5,000 ......vulnerable populations, rather than the general population, should be targeted for measles vaccination..... vaccinated mothers have little antibody to pass on — only about one-quarter as much as mothers protected by natural measles..... vulnerable populations, rather than the general population, should be targeted for measles..... vaccinationhttp://business.financialpost.com/2014/04/16/lawrence-solomon-the-untold-story-of-measles/

  • 50% lower chance of getting measles with vitamin A. http://www.bmj.com/content/343/bmj.d5094

  • Two doses of oil and water based vitamin A were associated with a 82% reduction in the risk of mortality http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11869601

So at least for that one, vaccines should be pushed for weaker/sicker people and people in the 3rd world.

Tb0n3

Mandatory makes sure people like Jenny McCarthy don't kill any more kids. Without a 90 someodd percent vaccination rate you can't rely on herd immunity protecting those who cannot be vaccinated and are more likely to die from being infected.

Number1dududuNumber1

Do you question your doctor to learn why he;s making the medical calls he does, or are you questioning his knowledge and experience? Because one of those two makes you an idiot.

selpai

Because nothing harmful has ever made it's way into a vaccine line... /s

Pawn

I am truly appalled and shocked. Disbelief. My world has been turned upside down when it was already slanted.

madmalloy

The mass decline of diseases during the last century was due to improved hygiene and hand washing, not vaccines.

Good post.

Peglius

1950s-1972: mentally disabled children at the Willowbrook State School in Staten Island, New York were intentionally infected with viral hepatitis, for research whose purpose was to help discover a vaccine. From 1963 to 1966, Saul Krugman of New York University promised the parents of mentally disabled children that their children would be enrolled into Willowbrook in exchange for signing a consent form for procedures that he claimed were "vaccinations." In reality, the procedures involved deliberately infecting children with viral hepatitis by feeding them an extract made from the feces of patients infected with the disease. (Hey look, it's the old "horrible human experimentation disguised as a vaccination" trick. Thankfully no one ever decided to use that again. Otherwise making vaccinations mandatory could be really bad)

That was my favorite example, I mean no one has EVER done anything bad under the guise of vaccination right...... right guys.

BlackBeltBob

All of these medical experiments were done before 1960, a time when information was hard to get by and the people were generally poorly educated. These sorts of experiments would be unfeasible these days.

Gracchi

I think that's more because of the time limits on classification and a very brief backlash from Congress on secret projects in the mid-70s. I'd bet good money there's plenty we don't know about.

Peglius

I wouldn't be so sure about that, at least in controlled scenarios

juicyloops

This has always been a slight concern of mine. I am not vaccinated although mostly from laziness, however I do have that little nagging thought about "what if".

To play devil's advocate though: if the government wanted to give us some "mind control" chemical or run an experiment, something like the water supply would be much more subtle (and effective) than vaccinations.

reconstructedcaribou

Do you believe this in light of understanding that vaccination provides resistance to the diseases, but not full immunity? So that a percentage of the population that doesn't vaccinate for something well-known, like smallpox, puts the rest of the population at risk?

I'm against the experimentation, just curious about how you view the obvious benefits that only come with mass-vaccination.

Gracchi

Yes. I'll accept the risk of someone else getting myself or my family sick before I will accept government mandated injections of anything. We should continue to try to educate people to rdeuce that risk.

Donttazemebro

While I'm not against vaccinations, I am of course hesitant. I don't trust the powers over the drug/health industry. They are so likely to give us stuff that continues to make us sick. I understand most vaccines are just small doses of the virus itself, but you never know what else. I really wish there was some type of nutritional facts of vaccines with the common uses of chemicals inside it. As apposed to just blindingly accepting shots.

Number1dududuNumber1

Why vaccines work

Why there are dangerous ingredients in vaccines

tl;dr: The people that create vaccines know more than you. You don't question your doctor so why would you question someone smarter than your doctor?

carlip

An appeal to authority, classic.

Number1dududuNumber1

No you idiot, it's understanding that there are cunts in this world that know more than me. If you are so naive to think you know more than someon who dedicates their life to understanding these things then you might be a legitimate retard.

TremorAcePV

The whole purpose of an educated society is so that they question people that are smarter than they are when those people become full of shit.

Number1dududuNumber1

Quoting twitter doesn't make you intelligent, and I get the feeling that twitter is probably where you get your information and that your doctor dreads seeing you because he/she knows you're about to spill some uneducated bullshit in their face. Just face it, you're a daft cunt and always will be.

Ulluses

That and vaccines which cost the tax payers hundreds of millions and have little to no effect. Only 20% of people who took the vaccine got the illness anyway, that's a success rate of 80%! Only it isn't, it just means your drug measurably failed in 20% of cases and might have worked the other 80% but there will be no follow up investigation into treated people to judge whether their body even knows what the illness looks like and are thus immunized.

X____sign_here____

Where do you live that people are walking around with polio, tetanus and smallpox?

DJexs

maybe you should look at the decline of those diseases and when the vaccinations where introduced. Because vaccines didn't eradicated them, modern amenities did. [ 1 ] [ 2 ] [ 3 ] [ 4 ] [ 5 ] You really should read about the history of medicine and the influence corporations have played on it.