Warhymn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGm00TdqirY

I would say that if it is a fact that bowtie shaped shrapnel was found in the pilot or co pilot then it was a missile.

deathcomesilent

I don't personally think there was a rebel missile involved in flight 17. It certainly wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened, but I don't think rebel forces would ever waste their limited munitions on somethings that was completely harmless and unrelated to either them or their enemies

Boeing is an American company, which means that the us economy would take a hit if it were ever widely known that the 777 is (allegedly) wildly unsafe.

This is the 2nd Malaysia Airlines (both Boeing 777-200er models) to go down in recent years. January 17 2008 , was the first reported incident of any kind, with the 200er model. The first of these planes was delivered in February of '97. That means there was 11 years of flawless performance before the disputed "issues" came about.

Frustratingly enough, wiki's commercial airlines accident list does not include certain unconfirmed cases like flights MH17 , and flight 370 , which are both the same 200er model of 777. In short, (big surprise here) wiki is not the best source for this type of info, but it's a starting place.

I also found Boeing's self-reported sales log for the 777-200er, which reports that 422 200er's have been sold to date.

I've got more to add to all this, but I've gotta run. I'll try and get back to finish this post up after work. Happy reading.

Edit:

According to this site , accidents on the 777-200er platform are as follows:

  1. 17 January 2008; British Airways (reported cause: ice buildup within the fuel lines) (1 injury)
  2. 18 June 2009; Continental Airlines (incident unrelated to mechanical issues) (1 fatality, pilot)
  3. 29 July 2011; EgyptAir (reported cause: electrical fire) (no injuries)
  4. 6 July 2013; Asiana Airlines (reported cause: collision while landing, catastrophic failure) (3 fatalities)
  5. 8 March 2014; Malaysia Airlines (aircraft missing, one "flaperon" was found, according to the MH370 wiki page) (no confirmed survivors, 239 presumed dead)
  6. 17 July 2014; Malaysia Airlines (MH17 broke up in flight, conflicting reports on the cause. Surface to air missile strike is suspected) (298 casualties)
  7. 8 September 2015; British Airways (cause unknown, engine fire) (no casualties)

Now, of 422 777-200er planes sold by Boeing, 2 have had events leading to the death of everyone involved. Another 5 of the remaining 7 events have evidence suggesting that mechanical shortcomings lead to life threatening emergencies. From what little reading I've done on other craft, the Boeing 777-200er has a far worse track record than other planes in the size-class (if anyone has data showing these levels of danger in other crafts, I'd love to incorporate that into my research).

Consider the window from 2008-2015 where these events have happened. Now, compare that window to this graph of Boeing's lobbying efforts since 1998.

My conclusion is that this could very well be a modern corporate war. A defaming event (like a plane's involvement in ~600 deaths in little over a 5 month period) would be enough to cause a hit to stock prices, and reduce income for a good while after, which could cause someone like Boeing to lose a major defense contract. As it happens, bad timing has cost Boeing billions before .

All of this is pretty circumstantial. So please, tear this info apart in pursuit of the truth.

dspfoisdafodsi

Pretty sure the debris images that flooded the internet shortly after the crash came from rebel sources, to verify though.