/r/SandersForPresident actively brigaded the poll, so it isn't accurate but there are reports of CNN censoring pro-Sanders comments. It would make sense considering Time Warner donated $87,835 to Hillary's campaign .

This is why Reddit was turned into the shithole it is now - it was competing with that propaganda machine and had to be assimilated. Controlling information is very important to powerful people.

Too many people have moved to internet sources as primary. The majority. Cable news, nightly news, and the NYTimes are less powerful do to this competition.

Time Warner owns CNN. Time Warner is Hilary's 7th biggest financial supporter.

Meant for those too superficial to actually read the articles, watch the debate, or otherwise research further and that instead just look at headline quips.

Typo -- not "news", we haven't had objective news reporting in years.

Someone tell that ugly ho to close her mouth gotDAMN

Why do some American people like Hillary? I mean after a decade of declining wages and increasing wealth inequality I imagined people would be more sympathetic to socialist ideas, but after each election in western countries they move to farther down the right.

So, when are we gonna start dealing with these lies and the liars that tell them appropriately?

Normally I just write you guys off as a bunch of crazies, but this is just too blatant to ignore. Everybody had Bernie winning, everybody. This is crap. The media is crap. The government is crap. It's all crap. I may as well move to China where at least I know I'm being oppressed on a daily basis.

how sad.

The media does this shit all the time with literally every story they publish, its just obvious this time. The media is corrupt and I would argue the biggest problem in America today. They don't exist to tell you the news or facts, they only exist to serve you propaganda that derives from the centralized elites agenda. They want to mold your brain and form how you act, and they have it down to a social science. They know exactly what theyre doing.

You can't possibly be surprised, I don't think this even qualifies as /v/conspiracy criteria.

The same thing happened in Mexico. Hillary Clinton is Enrique Peña Nieto, and Donald Trump is Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. The story is the same. Hillary is going to win the election. ;) politics are great!

Can we get a link to these posts? I'm having trouble finding the polls besides the Time poll .

You know who I think won?

Me because I didn't sit through a boring-ass debate.

I guess there will be other, non-internet polls, too? Looking forward to seeing these, since online ones might have been influenced by young people generally favoring Sanders over Clinton.

On another note : The way I see it is that there can definitely be a discrepancy between what the public thinks about the winner and what experts think. A lot more goes into that than just how loud the audience applauded or how good they reasoned. For example Chafee made some good points about climate change, but the reason he (at least I think) by far lost the debate was because he couldnt talk properly and was too stressed. Clinton definitely showed tons of poise and could articulate herself very well while not giving into any of the differences between her and Sanders. This doesnt mean that everything (or anything really) she said made sense, but in a way that can still mean that she won the debate.

Think of the argument that Paul and one of the other dingusses had during the GOP debate, after which everyone on Voat and Reddit claimed that Paul clearly had won because he made the better arguments, while experts were united to proclaim him the loser because his rhetorics were weak and he was not energetic enough.

That all being said: its still the people who will vote for the president (I think/ hope/ assume/ dont really believe anymore) and not the experts, so in the end while "winning" this dabate (which Im not saying, just that the polls dont prove that she didnt!) she might still end up losing votes over it.

It doesn't matter what us plebs think anyways.

at this point

we REALLY need to start v/conspiracyfact

o h w a i t t h a t s h i t a l r e a d y e x i s t s lol xpost then :)

exactly what they did to Ron Paul, soon we'll be looking at funny trends in the early primaries votes!

Obvious ministry of propaganda is obvious.