madmalloy

Brainwashed moron, go get a few flu shots so you're extra protected.

madmalloy

How about you try finding it on a map.

What did we do before pasteurization?

Was humanity in danger from milk and cheese?

Were there great milk consumption die offs?

Milk plagues?

Moron.

Omphaloskepsis

A Moo-ron.

madmalloy

Brainwashed much?

middle_path

will still taste fine but be deadly.

lost their kids to raw milk.

I want to see some sources right now. I cannot even imagine a bigger shill.

UncleIroh

I think some people who have positions of power just like tormenting people and making everyone turn on them for absolutely no reason. Or this article isn't telling the full story, but it's likely that people are just abusing their power.

CatManDew

I personally don't see an issue with what the Canadian government did, since it is a clear law prohibiting the sale of unpasteurized milk. The issue at hand is the law that makes raw milk illegal, otherwise they are just following their laws.

Also, what's the conspiracy behind this? That the farmer was breaking the law and the government intervened? It's just a shitty law, nuff said.

51rH0n3y84d93r

I think the issue is raised because ethically/morally should citizens fight unjust laws? If we believe that people own their bodies, should they not be permitted to sell/consume raw milk? I'm not a milk drinker myself, but I think that is the core issue.

Redditsdead

But your body is a tax generator for the government so they have to control it.

NotA-atWork

I was entirely not surprised until I realized it was Canada and not the US, as I had expected. Still not overly surprising.

entropyosaurus

Defied government harassment it seems

OnlyHalfGay

raw... milk?... so like... milk full of bacteria and micro organisms/udder dirt...
yeah.. cool...

diluvian

You consist of 100 trillion bacteria, and only a 3rd to a 10th as many other cells.

Let's call it for what it is; dead milk, or denatured milk.

OnlyHalfGay

what you wanna call the milk is essentially irellevant
lets say you eat a load of cum that contains 1000 HIV viruses, what do you believe the result would be?
the amount of bacteria in your body is not relevant either
bacteria can make what you eat/drink toxic
it can also make you severely ill depending on the shit you consumed
people get paralyzed/die from eating something bad globally, i personally know a case where a guy sits in a wheelchair because of a really brutal food poisoning
did you have a point about the body containing so many non-harmfull bacteria?

middle_path

raw... fish?... so like... sushi full of bacteria and micro organisms/coral dirt... yeah.. cool...

This is what you sound like.

billdred

Actually he doesn't sound like anything, this is a message board

Johnny_Appleseed

Wrong, shit. Fish are disemboweled first before being turned into sushi. Kosher beef doesn't include the ass end of the cow. In modern times, the rise of germ-theory of disease, we know how to disembowel a cow and keep the shit out of the food. Raw milk comes from a live cow that unfortunately has its asshole right above its back legs which end in hoofs that are just below udders.

I don't care but the disinformation should stop. Consuming raw milk is dangerous. It depends on some person whose highest achievement in life is to be a farmhand doing everything right, every time. Even if it is the farmer, who hasn't had to go to work where they are sick or not on their A-game.

UncleIroh

Just cause it's dangerous doesn't justify having the government ban the sale of it and harass farmers who still decide to produce and sell raw milk. Drinking raw milk could arguably make your immune system stronger, but that's another argument. I personally wouldn't drink it though, but I don't see why someone should be treated like a drug dealer by having cameras put on their yard without their knowledge.

Sameblamegame

Humans can process dangerous bacteria. We do it regularly. There is a danger to put anything in your body. You are nit picking. Humans are organisms completely capable of eating a raw food diet. Cooking is a relatively new human behavior, it is not necessary for survival, in fact it makes us unable to eat raw food as reliably as it limits the bacteria our stomachs house. Eating raw food is only dangerous because we don't eat raw food as much as our wild days. Raw food is bad because our pussy stomachs can't handle bacteria anymore, not because bacteria is innately bad.

middle_path

So what about Europe, Asia, and every other continent that uses raw milk? How dangerous is it for them? Cigarettes are dangerous too, proven to cause cancer, but it is the choice of the consumer to use them. Why can't we give each state tbatt same right?

OnlyHalfGay

we still use raw milk in europe?
banning alchohol/cigarettes/oysters/tartar/sushi is obviously not the same as banning inferior&dangerious milk
if you cant see that, there really isnt anything to discuss
next up: middle_path spreading the word on healing properties of consuming feces

middle_path

Baseless claims, cool.

OnlyHalfGay

youre well aware that if sushi hasnt been handled properly, it can contain dangerious parasites right? it has to be frozen for atleast 12 hours to kill them off
ive tried my fair share of sushi and certainly experienced the following upset stomach afterwards
ofcourse you can drink dirty milk, but why put yourself at risk when you can have the clean stuff really cheap?
its not like theres an option with sushi
so yeah, back to school for you
edit: why would the inside fillet of a salmon contain dirt? also, the fillet is pretty sterile to begin with, the problem is, because its not cooked, bacteria rapidly duplicate on the meat
same applies to steak, you wouldnt be able to eat steak if the inside wasnt sterile to begin with
the outside is however, not
fun fact: ground meat has a huge surface area (bacteria love it) and therefore only lasts 1 day when the package has been opened
ofcourse you can eat it on day two, but its just a safety measure

middle_path

Why do you assume if milk was raw we wouldn't treat it with the same care as sushi grade fish? It would be kept cold, fresh, and handled carefully.

OnlyHalfGay

please, understand that theres a difference between a sterile fillet and dirty cow udders milk
have you seen dirty cow udders? they look like theyve been dangling in shit for a while
without cooking//pasturising it, youre literally consuming loads of bacteria
god forbid somebody puts the milk in room temperature, it only takes some hours for 1 bacteria to multiply to millions
WHATS THE POINT OF DRINKING IT LOL, as if bacteria equal more nutrients or some bullshit

middle_path

You know very little about cows milk. You assume harmful bacteria would have a chance to grow, but the milk is already populated with beneficial microbes and antibodies preventing such a thing. Pasturized milk is different in that it is a blank canvas for harmful bacteria. You can also wash cow udders before milking them. You're talking out your ass.

OnlyHalfGay

implying cows milk doesnt hit shitstained udders while being machine milked
i bet youre one of those alternative medicine anti-vaccer gluten free raw food hippies

middle_path

Name calling. Nice touch.

OnlyHalfGay

thanks
so even with all the counter comments youve gotten, you still wanna believe its better for you than normal milk?
look, we live in a time where people live longer than ever because of great food and no shortages
and you try to push some belief about there being more nutrients in raw milk than there are in normal milk
must be some cooperate scheme to steal your gainz :^)

middle_path

I never once made the argument you propose, I simply think there is no reason for it to be illegal.

djsumdog

Yea I don't get why everyone goes on about raw milk. Mammals can't even process lactose past childhood. Humans have just adapted ourselves for years with cows' milk.

I've been in countries where you have to boil all your tap water, and then filter it. Minimum health standards are important.

entropyosaurus

Some people believe that pasteurizing and homogenizing milk breaks down and destroys the nutrients contained within it. It's obviously not that great of a health risk because people who consume it aren't constantly getting sick, and in fact, keep buying it.

canbot

Science proves those people wrong and there are numerous cases of people getting sick and even dieing. A quick Google search is all it takes.

entropyosaurus

Research funded by the American Dairy Association isn't science

klongtoey

udder dirt is delicious!

turdovski

Smoking? Yeah that's cool. Alcohol? Yeah coolio. Want to eat cholesterol laden mars bars fried in greasy shit? No problem. Load yourself up with diabeetus soda? Have fun.

Want to drink some raw milk? Fuck you, get arrested.

They need some multi national corporation to start selling raw milk, then the government would back off.

Fucking pieces of shit. I guess the police have caught all the bad guys and the Ministry of natural resources has investigated all oil spills and environmental pollution that they now have time to go after people who want to drink some motherfucking milk.

Kaizervonmaanen

Raw milk can easily be dangerous because it is not pasteurised. Corporations would get tons of lawsuits

Ryanwolf

Actually raw milk has enzymes that counter act any negative bacteria. Pasteurization kills those enzymes, and then the milk has no defense against the bacteria coming back. Which is why (I speculate) there Is a growing population of lactose intolerant consumers

Kaizervonmaanen

Actually raw milk has enzymes that counter act any negative bacteria.

That is nonsense, if that were true then it would be fresh longer than pasteurised milk, which it is not. Lactose intolerance is genetic and not due to how milk is. It is a reaction to Lactose because they can't digest it. It does not matter if they have some bacteria infested raw milk. Raw milk can be dangerous so it is important that it is not stored for a long time.

middle_path

The only person that would see profit from raw milk is local and small farms. There is a demand for it, and people would gladly pay $8-14 a gallon for raw milk. They would also likely go to said farm to get it. Raw milk cannot be manufactured on the massive scale we use for conventional milk, so naturally they banned it. If they ain't making a profit from it, it isn't allowed.

6double5321

It's about $5 for 2 quarts, in NH

Proppa

See guys? We just have to wait for SYNTHETIC raw milk, which is basically the same thing but with chemicals that may or may not cause dick cancer, severe bleeding from several if not all orafaces (for reasons yet to be determined) and will triple your likelihood of developing schizophrenia later in life. Awe :D

Al_Rubyx

That's why you don't buy shit when it comes out, you wait for other suckers to test it first.

I_like_paint

That is some crazy bullshit