Where are all the videos from the Paris attack? ( conspiracy )

submitted by klongtoey

So many people with camera phones, CCTV everywhere, so little footage.

Perhaps not a "conspiracy" but certainly strange. Or maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places.

ThisWeirdIndividual

Man, what a comeback . As far as I recall, I didn't behead anyone nor did I call for anybody to do so.

Are you 12?

ThisWeirdIndividual

Get your ass out your head. There are real hateful people out there . Don't believe that kind of shit is true when it happens every.fucking.day in 3rd world shitholes and "staged" because it happens in a 1st world country. Reality isn't a movie. No the governement cannot control everything and everybody, yes terrorists, real ones, slip through the net, because that's what they do, what they plan and organize for, and they strike. That's not staged at all: the barbarians are importing their shit to our countries. Be prepared as it is only the beginning.

And what does it mean "staged"? That people were not killed? Oh though shit ! My gf has friends who lost friends in this tragedy ! You're delusional

ThisWeirdIndividual

1st , Paris isn't London and we're very, very far to having as much CCTV coverage . Secondly: do you really think that people that are being gunned down, in a complete instant of panic are going to unpocket their smartphone and start to record videos? Seriously? Thirdly: I think France's nanny state mindset dictates that the government want to "protect us from seeing evil" (and I strongly disagree with this kind of views, because I'm a grown up and I decide if I want to see disturbing shit or not), but that's how it is: we're governed by people who think that they know better than us what's good or bad for us... France is a very opaque country when it comes to footage from criminal activities. There's always some kind of misplaced sense of "dignity" dictating that showing morbid stuff is indecent for the victims and their loved ones.

There's no conspiracy god damnit. Survivors saw these guys, they heard them say "This is for Syria! This is because of François Hollande!" . They weren't Mossad agents, they weren't french military or commandos, they weren't CIA agents: they were bona fide muslim terrorists

Why do you have a hard time believing that such organization as ISIS exist and want to strike us? While you're all so ready to accept without bating an eye that "Mossad did it! " . You find it was too easy for them to execute their plan? Well, this wxasn't a mastermind's plan: they just drove in with assault rifles and fucking opened fire on everybody and then hid in a concert hall with hostages. Nothing hard to do, especially for people who go there knowing full well, and accepting, that they were going to die anyway.

If it was a conspiracy , If these terrorists are visibly arabs, yelling islamic stuffs and killing people: what's the interest for the government to hide it? They'd be better off showing it, again and again because it serves the so called "narrative"! Right?

Wait a bit, you might see more and more of these videos and pictures surfacing, and you'll be able to satisfy your morbid curiosity.

Here is one from the inside of the Bataclan just after the assault from the police forces. Happy? Need more huh? Be patient.

jimmy2x2x

I understand why you wouldn't hand around filming, but this a music concert and I'm pretty sure a higher than average number would have been filming already, it does seem a little odd.

creflo

Have you seen the one where a fan is filming the show from pretty close to the front and the site ring out. One Eagle of Death Metal (familiar with guns) immediately run back stage and another is dumb struck. Filmer immediately cuts.

DerpExpress

Just personally if people had guns i would not be filming.

grandmacaesar

Surely there were people filming before the shooting. One would think there are videos out there that show the terrorists before/at the time the shooting started. Yet we've only been shown that one :14 video inside the Bataclan, with loud popping noises from somewhere.

Buttershine

But some would

klongtoey

this would explain less vids, but still plenty of fixed/security cameras, plus people filming from buildings, distance, cars, safe places, etc.

FSB

It's illegal to release videos with people on them who do not consent to the release in the EU. That's why there are no CCTV videos released. Unlike phone videos and the like, it's pretty hard to anonymously release a CCTV video from a stationary camera...

vagmulp

Blur out their faces. Google street view does it automatically so it couldn't be that hard right?

FringeSociety

My thoughts exactly. Its fight or flight. Not fight, flight, or film. Some people are geared that way, just not me.

DerpExpress

That's why all those found footage horror movies leave me shaking my head. "Put down the camera and do something!"

Foralltoosee

There are a handful that are making the rounds, but less than you would expect. Of course, this has also been the case with the last few high profile shootings in the US as well.

Skwerley

Probably because people aren't as stupid as everyone pretends they are and aren't literally always filming when they should be paying attention?

Foralltoosee

Possibly, and I give you that the right response in run away and not film this shit. But there are plenty of instances where people do go about filming when they shouldn't. The Kenya mall attacks a few years back for example had a shit load of people filming while it happened; while they ran away. Each case varies and people do different things given their surroundings, so you're right to not expect the films. But damn, just seems like there should be more given how attached people are to their phones.

ThisWeirdIndividual

Exactly. And I guess for now, CCTV and privately owned security camera footage is mostly withheld by the government, for analysis and shit or perhaps because releasing them serves no purpose except fulfill the morbid curiosity of some people over the internet (the 2nd reason , I do not agree with, every footage that doesn't represent a security threat should be released, wether it's disturbing or not : we're adults.)

smokratez

The US ones are being contained, because people have been identifying the crisis actors.

Skwerley

How would you contain it? Like, everyone has a cloud contingency on their phones, I have 2 or 3, one of which is not associated with any email or account on my phone.

smokratez

They way they have been doing it is deleting the videos and taking down youtube accounts that share and talked about them.

Another way is mocking the idea of conspiracy theorists. You get that all the time when you try to talk with someone, about something new to them. They go to the tinfoil hat meme and act like you are dumb for being able to think about something.

ThisWeirdIndividual

That's the thing: sometimes someone with a claim that seems outrageous gets called a nutjob, but he is right. Sometimes (often) this someone really IS a nutjob and spewing delusional bullshit.

And then there's several types of people: those who don't want to listen no matter the amount of indirect evidence, fiercely clinging to the official story. And the equally retarded persons ready to accept every outrageous claims without sufficient evidence, just because it confirms some sort of personal bias/agenda/narrative.

I'd rather be none of the above, thank you very much .

greatestnoob

3/4 of these videos have been taken down. I wonder what's going on.