greycloud

notice that all of the five eye countries are trying to roll back how much cash you can have on hand. they want to be able to rob you with the push of a button should you work against their agenda.

ura_soul

the entire financial system is based on fraud. this has been proven in numerous ways, including by a professor of economics in a published paper with empirical evidence. i have advocated for several years to end the addiction to 'money' with as high a priority as ending addictions to any other 'drug'.

Maki_Man

How does one go about living without money these days, when even going off-grid depends on having some savings to get the equipment and supplies to live?

ura_soul

in the allegedly 'civilised' parts of the planet, which most of us presently find ourselves, to break away from the control system - which money is a foundational aspect of - is a major challenge. that said, it can be done and in doing so you will encounter just how heartless and broken our society has become - you will notice, if you hadn't already, that while we could enjoy totally free and abundant food growing everywhere - we do not and in fact, we do not because the commercial interests that dominate the culture make certain that such free living is made very difficult. living freely is about much more than just not using money, it is about making clear that this is a free will planet and our free will needs to be respected in full; this means that we need to make foundation level changes to the culture, such that the natural freedom and power of the living earth is used in an appropriate way, instead of being channeled for the benefit of the few, at the expense of the many. in a short term, practical sense, i advocate for people to come together and form communities who will not be dictated to by those with the most 'imaginary money' and to start from there. relocating to the equatorial regions is also advisable, since these are commonly the areas that offer the best balance of conditions for producing food in a harmonious way all year round.

Maki_Man

It seems only after the inevitable global revolution will people finally be free to enjoy the abundance that we have been capable of for quite a long time. It sucks that it is getting harder to live. I don't think having to flee or go off-grid is the long-term solution when the time will come when we all have to stand and fight for our rights and for the planet. I have a feeling that only when enough people wake up, especially those with more power who are not part of the establishment who finally feel discomfort from the engineered decline of our societies, will real movements be made against the ruling elite.

Le_Squish

Pre-paid credit cards. No name or credentials attached to account. Some allow cash withdrawals. Doesn't need to be declared as assets. Bitcoins are good too If you can buy anonymously.

Maki_Man

I have tried pre-paid credit cards before, but the more cash you put in, the greater the activation fees. Most I've seen only go up to maybe $500 for a one-time use. I have read about BTC before since all the hype but haven't ever really gotten into it. What and where can you buy things using BTC anyway? Won't trading BTC rely on having a computer or device with internet?

Le_Squish

Pre-paid cards you really got to shop around. Don't be afraid to check out foreign banks. There are also gift card brokers that will buy gift cards.

BTC is intimidating but totally worth learning and setting up a "wallet". Maybe try visiting dogecoin or litecoin forums because those communities are much friendlier to noobs.