EngelbertHumperdinck

Come down, bro! I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm.

This is voat. You're safe here.

RedditIsPropaganda23

Ya they did it, and ya US lawmakers still suck their dicks.

Konran

See, I agree with the overall premise extolled by the OP, but I think we got to stop going around blaming entire groups for the shitty things done by a few shitty people.

Yeah, the twin towers tragedy stinks of Mossad, and obviously a few high-ups in the political sector would have had to have knowledge of this as well if true.

And I don't think there is any doubt as to the treatment of the Palestinians by the Israeli government, the illegal settlers and military, but I do also still believe that non-Zionist Israelis can be fairly human too (having met a couple).

I mean, should we go round saying that Russia is doing this, or Turkey is doing that, or wherever is doing what, when the reality is that many major global events only stem from the decisions of a tiny minority?

The same for the economy - Greece is to blame, and so is Portugal and Ireland - but why is that? Did everyone decide to stop working together all of a sudden? Or was it the dishonest scheming of some evil greedy wankers (a tiny percentage of the total population of anywhere) that really caused the current state? You know, do I really need to ask?

So if we're going to start outing these bastard psychopaths, let's start blaming individuals rather than nations - that seems a lot more just to me.

xeemee

great comment and insight

... but I think we got to stop going around blaming entire groups for the shitty things done by a few shitty people.

exactly! my years of research have clearly revealed that it is the so-called elite -- the 1% -- that are largely responsible for the worlds problems and, in fact, many of the 1% are members of what i call the Jewish-Zionist criminal cabal, however it is also very clear that it is not the Jewish people as a whole that are to blame, for they are victims of their leaders just as the rest of us

anyone that believes otherwise is unwittingly supporting the Zionists because they need that hatred in order to maintain their victimhood status which is used to achieve their political agendas - how else could the US backed slaughter of the Palestinians be tolerated by the world?

and a huge part of that ill-gotten sympathy is rooted in the "holocaust"

having said that, there is allot of truth in the statement that 'all roads lead to Israel' and i will not hesitate to tell the truth as i know it and let the chips fall where they may

And I don't think there is any doubt as to the treatment of the Palestinians by the Israeli government, the illegal settlers and military, but I do also still believe that non-Zionist Israelis can be fairly human too (having met a couple).

you need not "believe" - you can be certain that it is a fact that not all Jews stick together - many Jews have authored some of the very best works that are critical of Zionism and the so-called " holocaust " - there are several Jewish anti-Zionist organizations that i have found

Konran

Thanks for your comment and links. I have to admit that it is only in recent times that I have started to question the 'facts' surrounding the holocaust. In all honesty I do believe hundreds of thousands of Jews were persecuted during the Nazi regime, but I highly doubt that it was anywhere close to the figure of 6 million as claimed.

You are right in that there are many Jews who are and have been critical of Zionism (the most recent being the 10,000+ orthodox Jews who met in New York to protest against Israel, Zionism and the Rothschilds) and these types of protest are what made me start questioning the overall narrative of Israel's Neo-Zionist leaders and their actions in the first place.

I would just hope that we could have an open and reasoned discussion about this and have people actually ask themselves why there seems to be such a huge media blackout of protests such as the one I mentioned above. One day perhaps...

xeemee

... I do believe hundreds of thousands of Jews were persecuted during the Nazi regime, but I highly doubt that it was anywhere close to the figure of 6 million as claimed.

you need not 'believe' - it is a fact that Hitler was able to restore Germany only because he removed influential Jewry from their positions of power, particularly government, the media and finance - what many may not know is that the Jews were kicked out of ~67 countries prior to Hitler

those less than 1/2 Jewish were permitted to remain in Germany and, in fact, many did and many even served in the military, some rising to very high ranks

so yes, the Jews were persecuted, no doubt, but you reference the '6 million' number which leads me to believe that you think they may have been killed, which is absolutely incorrect and any reasonably open-minded person on the planet that chooses to investigate the so-called "Jewish holocaust" will quickly discover how completely ludicrous this claim is - there were no homicidal gas chambers and the policy had always been one of extradition, not extermination

Konran

you reference the '6 million' number which leads me to believe that you think they may have been killed

No, my friend, no I don't. I have seen documents from the Red Cross and other corroborating sources that suggest less than 400,000 Jews were registered dead at the close of the conflict.

I do not believe the gas chambers story either as we only have eye witness testimony (how can there be any eye-witnesses to these entire group style executions?) and circumstantial evidence such as a pesticide for lice was used at levels that killed humans.

xeemee

ah - sorry for my comment then - i didn't know how much you knew

I do not believe the gas chambers story either as we only have eye witness testimony

yes, and very few "eyewitnesses" actually , most of whom have been completely discredited over the years

actually my article regarding Germany's role in the war began with the debunking of one Irene Zisblatt, a documented fraud who claimed to have been at Auschwitz; tortured by Mengele; escaped from a gas chamber; escaped from Auschwitz, etc., etc., all while swallowing 4 diamonds her mother gave her "to by bread", defecating them, then re-swallowing them to hide them from the evil Nazis

Zisblatt (aka a pile of other names) was a shining jewel in Spielberg's Shoah project, but has since become an embarrassment apparently - the original article i referenced in my article has been removed and her testimony is no longer featured in USC Shoah Foundation YouTube channel - her story is so laughable that even prominent Jewish exterminations don't buy it , yet she is still paid to regurgitate her fantasies to young, impressionable school children

Eric Hunt did an excellent documentary that centers around Zisblatt if you haven't seen it: Spielberg's Hoax - The Last Days of The Big Lie

AllDancingCrap

I wonder is this so hard for people to understand

AreWeHuman

Because they need something concrete. "Upper levels" is something invisible that can only be seen if you connect a lot of dots. Which means doing something more than watching the news.

xeemee

i don't know that it's at all accurate to state that Israel is responsible for 9-11, however their fingerprints are certainly all over the event and they certainly have a long, documented history of terror attacks and false-flag attacks

Christopher Bollyn has written a great deal on this subject

EngelbertHumperdinck

Correct. Israelis are responsible for 911, not the nation as a whole. Just like "911 is an inside job" doesn't mean that congress voted on it.

CiscoinaBox

This isnt anti jews, this is anti Israel. There government is way to powerful for all the bullshit they are pulling. Someone is knocking at my door, brb...

Obesity

This is clearly just anti-semitic propaganda. Everyone knows that guy on dialysis was the mastermind. You remember him before he was "buried at sea" with no evidence of it?

1Sorry_SOB

I'm not going to look at the above links. I just go by what we know for sure Osama bin Laden said regarding the 9/11 attack.

"He said he was first inspired to attack the United States by the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon in which towers and buildings in Beirut were destroyed in the siege of the capital.

"While I was looking at these destroyed towers in Lebanon, it sparked in my mind that the tyrant should be punished with the same and that we should destroy towers in America, so that it tastes what we taste and would be deterred from killing our children and women," he said.

"God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind," he said."

More here about the MSM/Jewish cover up about why we were attacked.

bludream

You're a fucking JIDF prop faggot you faggot.

ElspethTirel

  1. You aren't reading my comment.

  2. Osama Bin Laden didn't make those videos. They are the same kind of fake propaganda war pushing videos that the CIA is using with ISIS.

grandmacaesar

I'm not going to look at the above links.

"I'm just gonna close my eyes, stick my fingers in my ears, and say "Lalalalala...the media will never lie to me...lalalalala..."