Baconmon

Too bad the majority of sheeple in the world will continue to believe whatever the MSM commands them to believe.. Then those same sheeple argue with us and tell us that we are crazy and wrong, even though we are the ones that have done ridiculous amounts of research on it, and they are just regurgitating the crap that they have heard over and over from their beloved TV over-lord..

Wish there was some way to change that.. It bothers me that no matter how many false-flag attacks happen, that every one just continues to believe they are real, and that we just need to keep culling back more and more of our freedoms until we finally win the war on "terrorism".. The day that the real war on terrorism will be won will be the day that the U.S. government is over-thrown..

jervybingly

Most of that information is correct in my opinion and based on the research I've done.

But none of the planes involved in 9/11 was a Boeing 757 or 767. The planes were Global Hawks modified to look somewhat like passenger planes. This is why an Air Force Lt. Colonel who was working in the Pentagon that day, and was on the scene within minutes, is on record as saying, and I paraphrase: We all wondered at what we saw. Where were the bodies, baggage,and where were the jet engines that are notoriously difficult to destroy? A sheriff in Pennsylvania who was one of the first to respond to the "crash" there said, and again I paraphrase: I have seen crash sites before, and that was no crash site. It was a smoking hole in the ground with no baggage, bodies, engines, or other debris, visible.

The Global Hawk is made of very light material and was designed to be pilotless and flown by remote.

glennvtx

globalhawks? Bit of a size discrepancy there. that is lunacy, and even contradicts yogr own cherypicked testimony, a globalgawk isn't going to leave a giant smokung hole in a concrete reinforced fortress.

jervybingly

It would if it had explosives in it. The modifie versions would be very difficult for even experts to pick out at altitude and high speed. Several eye witnesses said the plane they saw had no windows. And where are the engines: in Pennsylvania, the pentagon, and at the WTC. You know more than an Air Force Lt. Colonel, on the scene, about all this, do you? You must be an expert .

glennvtx

I have seen pictures of the turbine being pulled out of there, it definately was not a globalhawk. I do not care to speculate on the motives of this supposed lt. Colonel, but I do know that for every 1 witness that contradics the fact it was an air liner, there are dozens that don't.

jervybingly

I have done a lot of research on the subject and have never seen, nor heard of a jet engine being pulled out of "there," wherever you mean. Not WTC, Pennsylvania, or the Pentagon. I challenge you to show a picture of it.

glennvtx

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

If you did " a lot of research" you would defiantly come across the various conspiracy theories surrounding this very image. Youtube videos do not constitute "research".

jervybingly

The picture shows a part of the Global Hawk engine, and wide-angle shots show no bodies or baggage. By the way, where is the rest of that HUGE engine, not to mention the other engine.

glennvtx

You would be the second person over the past several days that's tried to convince me of some fantastic conspiracy involving 9/11. The last guy tried to convince me the "Jews" planted a tactical nuke inside the towers.... How someone could be so stupid, i don't know. There is very little proof of any method of destruction other than those planes, and i personally have met someone who witnessed it, first hand. Now.. I would definitely have to say i don't trust the government, pretty much ever. I think it's likely they had foreknowledge of that event, and whether it was gross incompetence, or malicious intent, that nothing was done, we may never know. However, they did latch onto it as an excuse to launch pointless, unethical wars for personal profit, that should be obvious enough.

I too have done a fair bit of "research". Osama Bin Laden claimed responsibility for those attacks. It was actually bin laden, i have seen and heard enough of his writing to be confident of that, though i wouldn't it past the cia to fake videos, i believe in this case there was no need. obl's address to the american people was quite clear as to his reasoning, and was anything but flattering to our so called "leaders".

jervybingly

Which Osama are you talking about? There were at least three different ones in the videos and tapes. The faces and voices don't match up. This according to a professor and Arabic expert at Duke University. The real Osama, who was alive for 9/11, specifically said he was not involved in 9/11. Denial is not the usual MO of terrorists. I have one word for you: MOSSAD.

glennvtx

Oh i see, your one of those "the Jews did it" people. There's not one shred of proof of this, We are not going to agree, so just please stop.

jervybingly

I see: you want me to stop because you can't conceive of such a plan. I would never say the Jews did it. I would say the Likud Party did it, and that is quite different I be lie ve.

jervybingly

So you assume I only used YouTube vids. That makes you an idiot. I'm a retired professor, so I have some idea of what research means. By the way, where is the link to the picture you referred to?

respondwithdata

I asked a retired USAF Captain who was working for the consulting firm I worked for in the early 2000's. He did not believe there was anything that would sit between the pilot and his inputs. In other words, if the pilot had to make a several G maneuver for some reason - nothing would prevent that mechanically.

While I do believe the official story of 9/11 is a joke - I don't think this is evidence that stands up.

There is some good reading about those aircraft potentially having remote control systems installed. My working hypothesis is that the terrorists were there, killed the pilots and anyone who tried to stop them, and then switched the plane to remote control for Allah. In this case, Allah's interests were served by the Zionists and the Neoconservatives.

http://www.rense.com/general75/latest.htm

ilikeskittles

I'd like to hear from an actual pilot of these aircraft if this is indeed true. In the past the pilot has absolute control over the aircraft and any and all automatic controls can be disabled.

luckyguy

Has a security clearance, admits publicly to reading leaked data not part of his assignment.

Rosenkavalier

The part about the apparent cell phone calls on the plane that supposedly crashed in Pennsylvania I think is rather damning.

I think it is in "September 11- A New Pearl Harbor" where this is explored in depth. If not, I apologize, but that whole documentary is worth a watch anyways. One of the craziest things about those apparent cell phone calls was that the line stayed connected for a considerable time after the plane had supposedly crashed in Penn according to transponder data.

forgetmyname

It's 2015 and I still cant make an inflight call...

Rosenkavalier

I cannot even drive around the town I live in without the call failing when switching towers.

Rosenkavalier

Not specifically related to my previous comment, this study about nano-thermite in the debris of the WTC wreckage is worth a read.

http://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

klongtoey

September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M

Mr_Sir

It's in there, what an eye opening documentary!