ShowMeYourKitties

not doubting the credulity of that site.. but..

OH MY FUCKING GOD ITS RAPING MY EYES

eyeswide0pen

Somedays I think that it would be easier not knowing. Sometimes I envy the sheep with their ignorant bliss. My life was more simple back then. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't change a thing, but I can see why a lot of them choose to stay in ignorance. The truth is uglier than I had ever imagined. I don't think anyone wakes up to the truth without a strong will for it.

eyeswide0pen

I wish we could start our own propaganda (the truth but you know what I mean) to counteract their propaganda. We could play their own game and flood comment sections etc. The only problem is that they have the means to make our stuff disappear, like shadow bans for example. We could purchase our own bots that make comments too. A bot and tons of proxies could go a long way to help counteract their lies if a lot of us would do it. I know a little about this stuff because I once worked in blackhat seo. We can also build tons of websites. There's a lot we can do if it's done in mass by a lot of us.

If you want to see a lot of crazy stuff go to blackhatworld and look at some of the services people provide. Most of those people on there are just trying to boost their websites up in search engines, but it will give you an idea how the sketchy side of the internet works. Some of the bots are so good you'd think you're talking to a real person. I think about what's on blackhatworld and I realize the gov has way more advanced stuff. A lot of shilling and downvotes probably come from bots. We also know people are paid to do this as well.

I'm getting a little long winded here, but let me tell you about a bot I once had. (Oh and you guys don't get mad a me because I no longer do this). It was called Scrapebox. It would pull thousands of links from the web on a topic of your choosing that had commenting enabled on the site. Then you would give it your proxies and type in whatever comments you wanted. Then it would mass comment on all of these sites. It would then alternate through proxies and post different comments that you chose. This wasn't even one of the best bots either, it was really simple compared to some others. Look up xrumer. You can create mass amounts of accounts with it. There are also captcha solving bots that help with account creation.

So just those few examples will show you a tiny fraction of what the gov can do. I bet these bots can't even touch what the gov has.

ShowMeYourKitties

I don't know much about the pineal gland, so you're welcome to enlighten me.
Thats what gub'mint tells me! To be honest I have no clue why there is fluoride in the water, and quite frankly my gut tells me that it shouldnt be there.

And yeah, I smoke a few times a week. Usually after work or on the weekends.

RedditIsPropaganda23

Empower the individual with an education. Teach him how to learn. Teach him to believe in and listen to himself.

RedditIsPropaganda23

Probably the best post on Voat.

magnora

Thank you!

QuestionEverything

Ideology, in the Althusserian sense, is "the imaginary relation to the real conditions of existence".

The worst Ideological beliefs are instilled from false propaganda to the direct benefit of the imposing entities perceived interests. Propaganda BELIEVED, eventually BECOMES brainwashing.

People literally believe the world which they've been presented, and do too little to question or change it. They choose loyalty over morality or science. This is a massive human flaw. Its certainly exploited and possibly engineered.

The real ability to conquer ideological beliefs will come from an effective way to show plain facts contrary to their stated propaganda and force SOME action.

Without FORCED action, even with the most vivid examples, people RESIST the necessary mental action needed to correct the situation. (!)

Examples: 9/11, UFO's. Both present an overwhelming amount of PROOF showing lies and fabrications. Yet most people ignore it, or WORSE: Argue against it. They will literally argue against facts which they are not only non-expert in, but usually completely ignorant. They simply believe their 'trusted sources'..

Presenting facts which simply cannot be refuted seems to be our Wedge in cracking this indifferent ignorance. I'm not sure about trhe Forcing action aspect. Maybe force a citizens initiative vote for independent inquiry into these issues, with SERIOUS judicial strength?

Here's your irrefutable arguments BTW: Building 7, expulsion cavities.

selpai

Guns

RedditIsPropaganda23

buy lots

3dk

This is why I browse Voat. This is the kind of post that only happens, if there is a high degree of free speech.

Hektik

TL;DR

I get the basis, that is the whole power expectation of a republic. The U.S. and other governments are considered "Democracy". This in its' nature means a republic is null. You elect people to represent your area/county/state and they may ignore it. The States are a republic, the federal government is a democracy, that has became an oligarchy. This is natural progression for a democracy. Next natural progression is kings and queens and fascism as one person. We need to pull this back.

xeemee

Even this subreddit ...

he ... HE'S A REDDIT MOLE!!!!!!!!!

seriously, it's great to hear from people who truly think outside of the box

and yes, we do have far more power than many of us imagine - one can begin to drive a knife in the heart of the system simply by planting a garden and thus reducing our dependency upon corporations while, at the same time, relieving stress on the environment

me? well maybe i'm a little more reckless and defiant ... and lazy - one of the things i do is to not do something nearly everyone does; i refuse to pay federal income tax because i refuse to feed the machine that is grinding us to pieces

TahTahBur

Simply put: David versus Goliath. We all have the power to make change based on the accuracy of the stone we cast.

The illusion is that no one can be accurate from the people to hit the right target. But ideas are like seeds - if you have a good one, they grow much larger.

Maki_Man

Read about the 7 Hermetic Principles. Get high off cannabis. Decalcify the pineal gland. Filter or purify your water from fluoride, heavy metals and other pollutants. Listen to music in 432 Hz instead of 440 Hz. Meditate, eat organic, and exercise. Play, laugh and think positive thoughts to raise your vibration to attract better things in your life. Avoid the T.V and other electronics, and even limit your use on the internet, because there is so much misinformation and lies and the only way to know for sure is for you to go out and live your life. Realize that we are all multi-dimensional beings living human experiences, and know that we are all capable of unlimited power no matter what situation we are living in individually. All it takes for the revolution to happen is to have enough people individually wake up and start to visualize and take action to improve their lives and the lives of others. You are your own savior.

I'm starting to take another look at the bible. I think Jesus was basically a very strong spirit from God who took the form of a human to show the people what they could also do, as long as we embrace love.

magnora

I like your ideas, you bring up lots of good points that we should all follow. The 432 Hz vs 440 Hz is nonsense though, it really detracts from the rest of the things you're saying, imo.

ShowMeYourKitties

You smoke entirely too much weed.

Monsantos_Schlong

OPs right. We need to help wake as many people as possible, even the celebrities are helping us. B.o.B has a whole mix tape and more, he's been tweeting about corruption for a while and I'm sure there's more. People are starting to realize there's something wrong and its not okay to stand by and watch.

anthonylancer

yeah bob is cool u heard 'missing'?

Monsantos_Schlong

I just downloaded it monday

Antiseed117

I can't think of anything to say in order to match your passion of this critical subject so I think I'll just start a slow clap in my head.

bdmthrfkr

Government used to watch over the people, now it is watching the people.

Damndirtyape

The belief that you're being watched allows them to have more control, than if they were actually watching you

eyeswide0pen

This is so true. And I think Edward Snowden helped that become more of a thing. Now we are careful, if not silent, about certain things online.

Dereliction

Panopticon.

... The design allows all (pan-) inmates of an institution to be observed (-opticon) by a single watchman without inmates being able to tell whether or not they are being watched. Although it is physically impossible for the single watchman to observe all cells at once, the fact that the inmates cannot know when they are being watched means that all inmates must act as though they are watched at all times, effectively controlling their own behaviour constantly.

magnora

I think of government as the scar tissue that has developed between billionaires and the plebs interacting. Sometimes it works in favor of the plebs, sometimes it works for the billionaires. It waxes and wanes throughout history.