Onlio

How is everyone feeling about their boy Obama?

srgmpdns

I was just thinking.... If I got up and started reciting some of the works of the Founding Fathers, could I be charged with treason? Sedition? Thought crime?

Hektik

So is Washington, D.C. it's their license plate quote in fact.

macredsmile

To a lawyer who likes to play word games. The TPP isn't the definition of treason. This Veteran doesn't have any tolerance for people who want to play language games with our American traditions and constitution. I swear an oath to protect the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. The investor-state dispute clause and taxation without representation of the TPP doesn't take the will of the American people into consideration. This is treason in my book.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/now-we-know-why-huge-tpp_b_6956540.html

Our laws should be voted on and have the ability to be overturned every four years by our elected representatives. That is the way our founding father's set up our Constitutional democratic Republic. Rather than being set by some unelected international arbitration court. Our founding father's are rolling in there graves.

It's just a ride. Don't give into fear and fight for what you believe is right.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dJgnbnCUegE

Gracchi

Then you have failed your oath because our domestic enemies have been running amok.

ShineShooter

And our riflemen are rolling their rounds. I think they think that this treaty takes the faculty of freedom from us. This treaty does nothing, it only says that it does. We'll be carefully watching for any of their attempts to use their 'power.'

macredsmile

Self protection is ok, but violence is not the answer.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win

http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0603/Political-misquotes-The-10-most-famous-things-never-actually-said/First-they-ignore-you.-Then-they-laugh-at-you.-Then-they-attack-you.-Then-you-win.-Mohandas-Gandhi

Lack of fear and rejecting learned helplessness is the answer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

Violence is an effective tool only if the masses are fearful.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

A person who lacks fear, can't be controlled.

aeoo

Think about the super-rich's ideology. The super-rich have always hated government because it's one thing that had to compete with the ordinary people in order to control. Oh sure, they're winning this, but the super-rich still have upsets like when they couldn't re-elect Cantor and now, if we're fortunate, they won't be able to nominate Shillary. They're all stunned how Bernie is whooping Shillary's plastic-left ass. So yea, they have huge influence but they want more. A process where Shillary has to compete with the likes of Bernie isn't ideal for the super-rich.

So, put yourself in their shoes. What's your game plan? As I see it, the next step is for the largest corporations to acquire a status of nation-states. They'll perhaps be called corporation-states or something, I don't know. I think Neil Stephenson writes about this kind of arrangement in one of his books. Let's see, yes, right here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash

This is the synopsis. In Snow Crash those entities were called "enclaves." This is exactly the game plan for some of these fucks.

Also in line with that same sick plan they want to encorporate cities and run entire cities as corporations.

Things like TPP are moving them toward that goal. The goal is for the corporations to become sovereign governments in and of themselves. Then citizenship will be something you have to pay for, and depending on how much you pay, you get more or less voice (similar to the shareholders now). Which is not all that far from how it is now, but now they have to fudge it and fight for it and experience an occasional upset. Now imagine a world where your voice only matters to the extent you can pay to represent yourself, and this time it's truly for real, no fudging. A significant minority of people want this kind of world, and not just the super-rich themselves.