partycrasher

Let's go ahead and look at Ron Paul's PAC contributions while we're at it (we should be doing this for everyone running): War, war, war, war, war, war, war

No thanks, Ron Paul.

OWNtheNWO

Wow, congratulations on being the first person or thing I've ever downvoated on voat. Those donations were from active duty who wanted him to end the fucking wars you obtuse moron. You should be ashamed of yourself.

partycrasher

There's really no need for name calling. I'm a reasonable person. I see Lockheed Martin and Northrup on the list there, so I fail to see how those aren't pro-war contributions, but I suppose if you could convince me otherwise without insulting my intelligence, I would be open to listening.

toobaditworks

Probably because their employees tend to be ex-military. And military people were for Ron Paul because he wanted to bring the troops home. Maybe their family members have their sons and daughters in the military .

We employ thousands of veterans worldwide and are committed to hiring and assisting our military-experienced candidates and employees. You bring a unique set of skills to our company, and have a first-hand appreciation for our business, products, and services. We value the training and leadership development that candidates gain from their military service and experience.

-Northrop Gunman website

It's not because Ron Paul votes for war. That's ridiculous. Go read his voting records and his speeches to congress. A good place to start would be this book: A Foreign Policy of Freedom: Peace, Commerce, and Honest Friendship

OWNtheNWO

He asks me to explain to him exactly what you did without insulting his intelligence, implying he had any to begin with, and instead of accepting this information he downvoated you, what a fucking scumbag piece of shit.

toobaditworks

Media brainwashing works well on some people.

diggy

While I agree that we should look at where contributions come from, I also think we should look into why they come from certain places. We see in your link that in 2012 Ron Paul's biggest contributors were individuals who were/are apart of the US Army, US Navy, US Air Force, US Dept of Defense.

This is interesting that those in the armed forces wanted to support the candidate that called for bringing troops home. Who is notably quoted as saying:

"We just marched in so we can just march out."


"War is never economically beneficial except for those in position to profit from war expenditures."


"Terror is a tactic. We can not wage "war" against a tactic."

and with his reputation as a non-interventionist, it leaves us with a few main possibilities as to why they may have contributed.

  • Possible reason one: They agreed with his current voting record of voting against wars/intervention/aid to other countries and focus on having our budget to be allocated towards defense spending instead of on wars(they went to fight in those places, saw how bad the wars were and want our involvement to end).
  • Possible reason two: They may have contributed to him because he is a veteran.
  • Possible reason three: They are directly or indirectly benefited by contributing and think if they fund him he will change the way he votes as well as his rhetoric much like what we saw with Obama.(yes Obama didn't have that long of a record to begin with, but his positions did change after elections) How could this possibly benefit the troops? Perhaps some in the armed forces have buddies in arms manufacturing industry they want to garner more sway for...?
  • Possible Other reasons: There are many other reasons they may have contributed that I'm not informed enough to think of or that are too random or improbable of scenarios for me to list.

I optimistically believe it was most likely the first reason, though I'm sure many people probably disagree.

WhoFramedReaderRabit

I'm not surprised. Citizens don't like the patriot act, so politician won't vote to renew it, but they will just come up with another similar bill. That way they get the benefit of saying they voted to against the patriot act, but still get all the perks of having a domestic surveillance bill.